My new pfp list

1. Crawford/Loma-Too hard for me to rank one above another
2. Kovalev/Ward winner
3. GGG/Canelo winner
4. Kovalev/Ward loser

Hard for me to come up with the rest. It's so subjective. Rigo can't be p4p for me anymore the dude really hasn't done **** for years. Pac isn't p4p for me either due to inactivity and opposition. Just like Floyd wouldn't be if he came back to fight Jeff Horn.

 

Why did adding Kovalev reshuffle everyone? How did he change the equation?

 

M Garcia too, and you added THurman.

And why is Pac now over Roman. What happened?

 

Your list is trash, Roman nor GGG deserve to be that high on anyone's list but because it is your list you are allowed that right.

 

P4p is subjective. GGG being #2 is plausible. I do think Crawford/Loma are a step above everyone, but at this point in their careers I think Ward/Kovalev/GGG are around the same level for their weight classes. GGG would get toyed with by Ward at 168, just like Ward struggled with the far bigger Kov at 175.

 

The criteria hasn't changed it's moving up in weight, who you fought and how you beat them. GGG hasn't moved up and he hasn't really fought anyone he's got two decent names on his resume. You can't count Brook as a name considering he moved up two divisions. Based on those three things GGG shouldn't be that high on such list. Everyone's list will be different and like I said in my previous post he's allowed that right but yeah logically speaking and no bias GGG can be in the back half of the P4P list but the list isn't based on the eye test. People should blame GGG for not challenging himself atleast Roman went up

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Chocolatito is one of the most overrated boxers imo. He's not in the class of the guys I mentioned. It's also far easier for those smaller guys to move up as they're moving up less pounds. You can't tell me Chocolatito moving up that many weight classes is the same as GGG moving to cruiser.

 

Damn, dude. You're a *****, but you call out other *****s for their BS.

RESPECK.

 

Roman being #1 was a little bit much... but dude is not overrated. His skills are elite. Dude brings one of the scariest offenses in boxing with his brilliant pressure, deft footwork, and wars every time out. And he does this with excellent opposition (resume).

 

Pac dominated an elite in Bradley.

Then Pac dominated Vargas, who was on a rampage, could have had a TKO win over Bradley and destroyed Sadam Ali. Vargas is greater than Crawford's run of Burns/Gamboa/Beltran/Molina/Diaz/Postol/Lundy/Jean/Diaz and equal to Postol. Yet you have Bud as #1?

 

His offense is definitely beautiful, but I don't think he's on the level of the guys I mentioned. I've been hyping Chocolatito up for years too since I've been watching him since he fought in Japan. Crawford/Loma/Kovalev/GGG/Ward are just on a different level than him. I think Spence is too, but he needs to prove it against Brook.

 

No way is Vargas better than a Gamboa or Postol win. It's more similar to a Diaz type win imo, and even though Manny dominated, he didn't dominat elike Bud did. Also Bradley/Pac 3 wasn't dominant. Yes the KDs made it a pretty wide decision but it was extremely competitive.
I just see Bud/Loma levels above everyone. I like Pac too, as much as you see me criticize him. A 2010 Pac is definitely higher p4p than Bud/Loma.

 

#1 is open for me. All the top tier guys like Golovkin, Crawford, Ward, Lomachenko, etc., are in the mix but they all need to do something special for me to call any of them the # 1 P4P fighter.

Ward- Beat Kovalev in a clear, decisive manner.

Crawford- Shouldn't waste his time taking on mediocre competition at 140. Move up to 147 and dare to be great. I'd have him as my # 1 guy if he beat the winner of Spence-Brook.

Golovkin- A win over Alvarez and a win over Saunders to unify the division would put him right up there. If he offered a rematch to Jacob's and clearly beats him, he'll get the nod for me as #1.

Lomachenko- No one wants to fight him at 130 lbs; move up to 135 and beat Mikey Garcia. At that point, even with such few pro fights under his belt, the quality of his resume would be too good to be denied the # 1 spot.

Obviously all of these things aren't going to happen simultaneously (or at all,) but if those guys achieved those type of feats, than they'd deserve the title as the pound for pound best fighter. The last 2 guys that clearly held that title were Floyd and Manny, and everyone knows what type of achievements those men had to accomplish in order to be dubbed the very best P4P.