*** My Official View of Vitali Klitschko***

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  1. Kom0do_Drag0n

    Kom0do_Drag0n New Member Full Member

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    *IT'S LONG BUT WORTH THE READ*

    First and foremost I will state that I am a die-hard Vitali Klitschko fan but I am also a combat sport fan who values boxing, and other combat sports, not for who is fighting, but how the fight plays out.

    My first reaction to the VK vs KJ fight was disappointment due to the fact I saw Klitschko beat up on a hopeless opponent, yet still not knock him out.
    As I re-watched the fight, I started to see it differently.

    How can any boxer make a fight interesting if his opponent doesn't fight back?
    Really, he can't.

    Any boxing fan, who knows their stuff, saw VK dominate the entire fight and smash around a much weaker, pitiful opponent.
    There is one thing, only one, that KJ can be praised for and that is his ability to make many of VK's punches glance off him.
    He has a fair, not great, game of defence.

    Shall we look back also to Wlad vs Ibragimov. That was a laughable performance some would say. Sultan was nothing special and Wlad couldn't KO him. What happened after that?
    Wlad has smashed everyone since.

    Decisions happen.

    This VK is no different from the VK who fought Cris Arreola. The power is still there, the speed is still there, the wisdom and experience is still there.

    VK dominated another fighter who never, ever had a chance of hurting the Ukranian.
    No boxing fan can discredit that.
    He still holds the highest KO % of any HW boxer.

    Where to from now? I think there is another mandatory and then the opportunity for David Haye.

    Will VK defeat his mandatory, most likely Solis and then Haye?
    I believe he will, and will in style.

    VK is to smart to take it easy with the likes of Solis and Haye.
    For God sake, he is a Doctor.
    VK will train as much as is required, against training partners of similar style and he will defeat his opponents.
    One, that being me, can't help but think this performance against KJ was even a little 'slack' to further encourage David Haye to move up to the plate.

    Think about it. Since his return, VK has almost killed all his opponents and when Haye had the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali, he backed out twice, some say three times.

    How are the Brothers going to unite the entire division between them if Haye avoids them at all cost?

    This performance to me seems every bit like a trick to make Haye think
    "Now I know I can beat him".

    VK is way to intelligent to not take his boxing career or his opponents seriously.

    Age will catch up on him, not yet, but it will and there is a time limit to secure that final belt and make ultimate history. The Klitschko brothers will do this, in whatever way it takes.

    -Komodo Dragon
     
  2. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lousy fight...just be glad what's his face won't ever be on TV again. There was a blind judge there who gave what's his face a round.
     
  3. Kom0do_Drag0n

    Kom0do_Drag0n New Member Full Member

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    Lousy fight because of a lousy opponent.
    Can't believe KJ had the nerve to tap his chin in the 12th acting like he can't be touched.

    I wish someone would tell KJ "When they say 'keep your chin down' it doesn't mean bend over at the waist"

    The guy bent over almost everytime VK tried to throw a punch.
    Sure it was a tactic so VK couldn't hit his head and isn't allowed to smack the back of the head, but jeez KJ. If you're going to talk big, stand tough and fight big.

    At least Arreola backed his talking with as much effort as he could muster.

    KJ = Most pathetic current heavyweight
     
  4. Noukstar

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    You forgot to mention Vitali cannot change styles, he is the same Vitali every time he fights. It is highly effective, but geesh last night a few uppercuts here and there, some harder jabs, just somethign different to his usual robotic self would have gotten that fat bloke out of there.

    Also, Vitali looked fatter than he usually does. Not that he was fat, but he was not as ripped as he usuaully is. Just an observation.
     
  5. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am amazed how high regard the Klitschkoes are held. If they dont knock somebody out its almost like they lost. And we are talking a wide UD here 120-109 not some 116-112.
     
  6. Kom0do_Drag0n

    Kom0do_Drag0n New Member Full Member

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    I kind of did mention that. 'Same Vitali as Arreola fights'.
    Lol.

    I agree though. Once I read that Vitali stated:
    "Many people don't like my style because it's not fancy but my style works for me."
    Something along those lines.
    And I back him on this too. If it works for him, then I say do it.

    The uppercuts would of worked though because KJ bent-over so much.

    If you watch the majority of VK's opponents, they defend by blocking, deflecting or moving their head back/side of VK's punches.
    I was getting frustrated at KJ with all that bending, again not because of the tatic used (works for him) but because he talked so much sh*t, acted so damn sure of himself and yet he was a punching bag.
     
  7. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was pretty pissed but i think i remember giving KJ the 4th?

    He deffo won one round maybe someone can correct me
     
  8. Semlin

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    You better check your glasses - Vitali was 247 at weigh-in compared to 252 before the Arreola fight... Even against Lennox Lewis he weighed 248 - you don't really think he lost 10 lbs of muscle and gained 5 lbs of fat since the Arreola fight, do you?
     
  9. Kom0do_Drag0n

    Kom0do_Drag0n New Member Full Member

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    I agree with this too. It's because of the brutality and power of their history that when they don't KO an opponent it's frowned up.

    Look at boxing history. They have massive KO % differences over former 'fancier, better' champions.
     
  10. Kom0do_Drag0n

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    Had that VK uppercut, 8 seconds from the final bell, come straight under KJ's face, I reckon it would of been KO.
    Seemed like VK's last effort to finish him.
     
  11. Semlin

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    Yeah, everybody gives JK one round but nobody can agree which round this might be, now what does this tell us? Very simple - after giving one fighter round after round, everyone tends to develop an understandable wish to give the other guy at last one round, nothing more. If KJ really won one round, then most would agree on which one this was.

    The plain and simple thruth is - KJ WON NOT A SINGLE ROUND in the entire fight, 120-108 is the only objective scoring possible, and 119-109 is a gift for KJ for he can say "I won ONE WHOLE round against Vitali Klitschko, WOW what a great fighter I am" or something like...
     
  12. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah your probably right i was desperate to see some kind of fight i was probably looking for a reason

    ****ing joke KJ
     
  13. Kom0do_Drag0n

    Kom0do_Drag0n New Member Full Member

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    No worries.





    No worries at all.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Right. Johnson was in survival mode, and seems to take a good punch. Plus he's good defensively. It was not one of Vitali's better nights, but a lot of that had to do with Johnson's tactics.

    120-108, 120-108, 119-109 is a near perfect shut out. I challenge anyone to find me a more lopsided score card in a title fight.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Vitali has slipped a fair bit though I think..... objectively speaking.

    Johnson didn't really try, which made it impossible (near as damn it anyway) for Vitali to knock him over, which he would have done. KJ would have been better served getting on the bike much more to test out those legs, rather than rope-a-doping to a wide points loss.

    One day his body is going to give out on him in the ring.......