My p4p list #20-11

It’s cool mate! Most of us have biases...that’s why I don’t rate Frazier as the GOAT like I did 15 years ago (although having that belief shattered still hurts me). I try to look at longevity, dominance, ranked opponents etc. but even there we all weigh those things differently and give more credence to some than others do. That’s why no 2 lists look alike.

 

I also have Ali outside the top 10 all-time. Both he and Louis are firmly in my top 20 making them the only career Heavyweights inside my top 50 most likely.

 

Not sure it has been a while. My guess is outside of the top 50, and likely 75+.

My love of Frazier the fighter has not diminished. But with 8 original weight classes it is hard for a HW to compare with a Lightweight like Duran to who won belts in multiple divisions.

So in those 7 other divisions there are greats who equal any HW’s dominance...but also several others who surpass HW’s by establishing dominance in 2 and 3 divisions while fighting above natural weight.

Armstrong went 57-1 from 36-39 with the lone loss being a dq. Defended his WW title a record 19 X’s. 2 weight classes above his natural weight. What can Dempsey or Frazier or Walcott claim equality with.