My P4P Top 10

You are not getting the point.

 

Its baffling how some folks put JMM aheady of Pac when he has a draw and a loss against him. Not to mention was put on his ass a total of 4 times to Pac's 0. I thought this was a boxing site for knowledgeable posters.

 

A lot of people scored the second fight in Marquez's favour.

You might not agree, but it's hardly 'baffling'.

 

Fact: JMM record against Pac is 0-1-1.

This doesnt make him better than Pac. You want to make him a close second in your rankings, I'm fine with that but that's as far as you can go.

 

to add, pac performed better against barrera as against jmm against barrera...

 

If they are my rankings based on subjective criteria, then why would it make any sense to base any part of it on subjective judgements that other individuals have made that differ from my own?

It's like saying asking someone for a list of what they believe to be the best flavours of ice cream, then criticising them for putting chocolate first because a panel of food tasters had named vanilla as the best flavour.

 

Thats fine. I'd rather base rankings on facts but hey thats just me.

 

good list but i would have pac over jmm

and hatton up at number 10

and replace Arthur with paul williams

 

He did actually, and I agree.

Vasquez and Marquez are inactive, they have not fought for almost 1 year. And by doing the trilogy they completely ignored any other fighters in their division - which is a pretty good division.

Did they really fight the best in their division? What about Caballero, Penalosa and the rest of the top fighters who've challenged them repeatedly but got ignored? Are they still the same fighters they were 2 years ago? Who knows.

 

You can't have a P4P ranking based on facts. That's the whole point. It's based on subjective judgements.

 

Why do people always put jmm ahead of pac lol ...

Pac > JMM :good

 

What the hell has Abraham done to be deserving of P4P top 10? He has yet to beat anyone better than a B-level fighter. His best win is Khoren Gevor for christ's sake. I can see where he might be rated decently, but anyone who rates him top 10 probably should have Chad Dawson in there ahead of him, based on quality of wins in undefeated record.

My top 10:
1) Pacquiao
2) Hopkins
3) Marquez (sorry folks, he lost to Pac, and I didn't rate Casamayor or Diaz that highly)

-big gap-

4) Mosley
5) Cotto
6) Williams
7) Hatton
8) Darchinyan
9) Dawson
10) Calderon

Vasquez and R. Marquez have dropped out due to being inactive for over a year. Once they fight again, they'll pop back in.

 

You lost me right there.

Was going so well up to that point as well.

 

nice list:good...but bhop should have KO'd pavlik and tarver if he intends to be higher than marquez. JMM just KO'd guys who had never been KO'd before