My P4P Top 10

Taylor didn't beat Wright though. I don't think you are a boxing fan at all. This thread has been depressing. :-(

 

Agreed....

He just disgraced himself, BUT, it just goes to show how much the sport has fallen as of late....:-(

Can you think of an era of "WEAKER" p4p fighters

 

I agree with these 3 as the best in the sport right now & it doesnt matter which order you put them because there is very little to choose between them IMO.

:thumbsup

 

Haye a top 10 P4P, I really don't think I would put him in there and no way higher than Israel Vazquez, R Marquez and Ivan Calderon. But then again is your list

 

it's easy to pick apart someone else's list an not post your own. My p4p is all about who I think is better than who relative to their division and taking into consideration the overall strength of the division too.

1. Pac (LW)
2. JMM (LW)
3. Mijares (SFlyW)
4. Calzaghe (LHW)
5. Pavlik (MW)
6. Chris John (FW)
7. Margarito (WW)
8. Kessler (SMW)
9. Wlad (HW)
10. Hopkins (LHW)
11. Vasquez (SBW)
12. Abraham (MW)
13. Donaire (FlyW)
14. Miguel Cotto (WW)
15. Steve Molitor (SBW)
16. Jorge Linares (FW)
17. Fernando Montiel (SFlyW)
18. Lucian Bute (SMW)
19. Nate Campbell (LW)
20. Shane Mosley (WW)
21. Haye (HW)
22. Daniel Santos (SWW)
23. Ricky Hatton (SLW)
24. Paul Williams (WW)
25. Rafa Marquez (SBW)

I know my list sucks and is very subjective, but at least I tried.

Other fighters i considered were :
26. Joan Guzman (LW)
27. Jermain Taylor (SMW)
28. Andre Berto (WW)
29. Ivan Calderon (Jr Fly)
30. Timothy Bradly (SLW)
31. Steve Cunningham (CW)
32. Antonio Tarver (LHW)
33. Chad Dawson (LHW)
34. Joshua Clottey (WW)
35. Juan Diaz (LW)
36. Celestino Caballero (SBW)

- Sergei Dzinziruk (SWW) but I don't know anyhting about him so I left him out

 

I got Haye down around 20 becasue if he was fighting at CW he would be much better than all the other competition but at HW lets say he weighs in at 225-235, i don't think he is that much better than other fighters at 225-235

 

Anyone who has Israel Vasquez lower than 5 clearly doesn't know too much about boxing.

Another thing.....

Why should a guy lose his place if he lost his last fight?

Surely the quality of opposition should be taken into question, otherwise you could pad up with 50 bums and claim to be #1

 

I see despite all the criticisms you've circled me out, despite the fact I provided constructive criticism and merely voiced my disagreement.

Anyway.

:smile Pound-For-Pound Top 15 :smile

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Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao

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Juan Manuel 'Dinamita' Marquez

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Joe 'The Pride Of Wales' Calzaghe

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Cristian 'El Diamante' Mijares

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Israel 'Magnifico' Vasquez

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Rafael 'Dinamita' Marquez

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Kelly 'The Ghost' Pavlik

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Antonio 'The Tijuana Tornado' Margarito

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Ivan 'Iron Boy' Calderon

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Bernard 'The Executioner' Hopkins

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Miguel 'Junito' Cotto

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Nate 'Galaxy Warrior' Campbell

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Nonito 'The Filipino Flash' Donaire

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'King' Arthur Abraham

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David 'The Hayemaker' Haye

I'm happy to explain any queries you have.

 

dont make a list unless your prepared to be wrapped on it.
i agree on manny then joe i would put jmm third pavlik down to seven and why havent you put vasquez in there....?????????
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My top 20 p4p just now is:

1.Manny Pacquiao
2.Juan Manuel Marquez
3.Joe Calzaghe
4.Israel Vasquez
5.Cristian Mijares
6.Kelly Pavlik
7.Antonio Margarito
8.Bernard Hopkins
9.Ivan Calderon
10.Rafael Marquez
11.Arthur Abraham
12.Paul Williams
13.David Haye
14.Miguel Cotto
15.Nate Campbell
16.Juan Diaz
17.Chris John
18.Mikkel Kessler
19.Ricky Hatton
20.Chad Dawson

 

i have a prob w/ putting jmm in the top 2 p4p ahead of joecal when he still hasn't beaten a top 10 p4p fighter yet. pac has done this about 4-5x already (sasakul, mab, erik and jmm) while calzaghe has done it once (hopkins).

jmm's best results so far are his draw w/ pac, win vs. mab (not anymore a top 10 p4p fighter at that time) and his KO of casa (marginal top 15 p4p).