The thing is Calzaghe is already talking about retiring. Both may be past their physical prime, but Calzaghe is past his mental prime. He's lost his hunger. 2007, Calzaghe was the better fighter.
What has Paul Williams done (one good win in my book-and most thought he lost)? Bernard Hopkins has lost 3 of his last 5 fights!
This would be by list based on the same criteria. 1. Pac (LW) 2. Calzaghe (LHW) 3. JMM (LW) 4. Pavlik (MW) 5. Chris John (FW) 6. Mijares (SFlyW) 7. Margarito (WW) 8. Kessler (SMW) 9. Wlad (HW) 10. Hopkins (LHW) 11. Vasquez (SBW) 12. Abraham (MW) 13. Donaire (FlyW) 14. Miguel Cotto (WW) 15. Steve Molitor (SBW) 16. Jorge Linares (FW) 17. Fernando Montiel (SFlyW) 18. Lucian Bute (SMW) 19. Nate Campbell (LW) 20. Shane Mosley (WW) 21. Haye (HW) 22. Daniel Santos (SWW) 23. Ricky Hatton (SLW) 24. Paul Williams (WW) 25. Chad Dawson (LHW) 26. Rafa Marquez (SBW) 27. Joan Guzman (LW) 28. Jermain Taylor (SMW) 29. Andre Berto (WW) 30. Ivan Calderon (Jr Fly) 31. Timothy Bradly (SLW) 32. Steve Cunningham (CW) 33. Antonio Tarver (LHW) 34. Joshua Clottey (WW) 35. Juan Diaz (LW) 36. Celestino Caballero (SBW)
sometimes ratings are about respect garnered from fighting the best possible fighters that you can - and if marquez got both pac results who would begrudge him p4p 1? hell, there's even a debate about it now. you said marques hasnø't beaten a top 10 p4p fighter yet, but if you compare who he has fought -and how they fought - top 10 p4p fighters in their prime their is no contest. it's a mythical rating, sure, but respect and understanding go a long way when you look at a fighters record.
i think it sux honestly... Klit, Haye, Guzman, in a top 10..... then Calzaghe above JMM then the biggest part is PAUL WILLIAMS??? and #5 at that??? wtf.... he beat margarito, before he ever beat a notable opponent......and he lost to quintana??? how the hell he is #5 p4p????
I think I should maybe have Wlad in there at number 19 and push Hatton or Dawson out, for now. Until Dawson beats Tarver or Hatton beats Malignaggi (both big "ifs" for me), Wlad is the more dominant champion. Other than that possible temporary revision, I'm happy with my list.
WHY IS HOPKINS A P4P TOP TEN FIGHTER?! IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE! A FIGHTER LOSING 3 OF 5 FIGHTS BEING ABOVE A FIGHTER (HATTON) LOSING ONCE AGAINST THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD AT THE TIME?!