My personal top 25 1970-2002

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  1. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    These guys are all too low:
    4.Pernell Whitaker
    6.Carlos Monzon
    10.Julio Cesar Chavez
    13.Michael Spinks
    15.Jose Napoles
    20.Emile Griffith

    These guys are all too high:
    3.Roy Jones Jr
    7.Thomas Hearns
    8.Marvin Hagler
    9.Aaron Pryor
     
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  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My name isn't Bill.

    Here's my alternative 25 from 1970-now:

    1.Roberto Duran
    2.Sugar Ray Leonard
    3.Roy Jones Jr
    4.Pernell Whitaker
    5.Alexis Arguello
    6.Carlos Monzon
    7.Thomas Hearns
    8.Marvin Hagler
    9.Aaron Pryor
    10.Julio Cesar Chavez
    11.Evander Holyfield
    12.Bernard Hopkins
    13.Michael Spinks
    14.Lennox Lewis
    15.Jose Napoles
    16.Ricardo Lopez
    17.Floyd Mayweather Jr
    18.James Toney
    19.Mike Tyson
    20.Emile Griffith
    21.Wilfredo Gomez
    22.Bob Foster
    23.Mike McCallum
    24.Carlos Zarate
    25.Manny Pacquiao/Larry Holmes

    Shits all over yours, don't it??[/QUOTE]

    Where's Ali?
     
    redrooster, Jul 29, 2008
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  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By the way your list is the worst I've ever seen.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    Oh no, not another one

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  5. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PACFAN84 did you hear me? I said your list wreaks of animal dung!
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    How can Camacho be ahead of Pedroza - well how can Pedro not make the list at all? How close is Pintor considering Chandler is there?

    And perhaps worst of all - WTheF is Spinks?
     
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  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks like I may have to do some more revising.
     
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  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ultimate p4p list 1970-2002 revised

    Hagler
    Roy Jones
    Alexis Arguello
    Ali
    Bob Foster
    Roberto Duran
    Napoles
    Larry Holmes
    Victor Galindez
    Ruben Olivares
    Salvador Sanchez
    Micheal Spinks
    Cuevas
    Aaron Pryor
    Hearns
    George Foreman
    McCallum
    Terry Norris
    Pernell Whitaker
    Jeff Chandler
    Camacho
    Mike Tyson
    JC Chavez
    DLH
    Ray Leonard
    Julian Jackson

    Sorry but Pedroza couldn't make it. The draw with Taylor soured me on him, the two robberies with Lockridge, that sort of thing.

    Pintor would be a worth addition. Where should I put him?
     
    redrooster, Jul 29, 2008
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  9. Robbi

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    Are you drunk tonight? Because it sure as hell looks like it.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Bit of a hard call on Pedro. I scored both Lockridge fights for him as did many experts. At worst one of those could be called a draw in which case he retains anyway. As for the draw with Taylor - if memory serves me right the super fast Taylor ran all night and did bugger all offensively. He really didn't draw that fight unless memory fails me.

    Personally i'd have Pintor before Terry but to each their own. Foreman, regardless of one great win and achievement needs to be scrutinised. Is one of the greatest wins in history enough due to it's circumstancial nature? Are we rewarding age too much?

    Galindez will have to be eased out too IMO. Saad might rate ahead, i'll have to rethink. I will have a deep look tonight and make a few suggestions further. Julian Jackson must be in by the skin of his teeth.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jul 29, 2008
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  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These lists are harder than they look. I forgot Saad. Somebody's got to go.
     
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  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler
    Roy Jones
    Alexis Arguello
    Ali
    Bob Foster
    Roberto Duran
    Napoles
    Larry Holmes
    Victor Galindez
    Saad Muhammud
    Salvador Sanchez
    Micheal Spinks
    Cuevas
    Aaron Pryor
    Hearns
    George Foreman
    McCallum
    Terry Norris
    Pernell Whitaker
    Jeff Chandler
    Camacho
    Mike Tyson
    DLH
    Ray Leonard
    Julian Jackson

    I can't put Pedroza in with this group, certainly not replacing Camacho. Hector was a 3 time world champion and never knocked out. Pedroza been stopped and has no real speed or power. Sometimes got gift decisions.
     
    redrooster, Jul 30, 2008
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  13. Holmes' Jab

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    Whitaker much too low, Leonard too. Nice mentions of Arguello and Sanchez.
     
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  14. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    John I recommend Galindez-Rossman 1 and 2 if nothing else for entertainment value. It was towards the end of his title reign but give him credit, he prevailed in the rematch. Mike fought a great fight in the first and cut him to ribbons but Vic would not be denied in a rematch. This is why rematches are so important.

    Anyhow, Victor did rule for 4 years in a tough division. I only wish I had his title eliminator match with Len Hutchins.
     
    redrooster, Jul 30, 2008
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  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RR:

    You have Braxton, albeit squeezed out.

    Where's Holyfield?
     
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