my question has been answer is Paul a better fighter since the Quintana fight

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  1. patpatpts

    patpatpts Active Member Full Member

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    alot of people who was riding with Paul said he had improve since then. but he really hasn't he use the jab more though. some people came to realize that he's not the beast they made him out to be (still good fighter though).some people thought to little of sergio and to big of paul. my uncle one of them. has he got better, now it's official no. he got beatup more winning the fight with sergio than losing to qunitana.




    that was one hell of a fight, they made boxing fans proud i was on my feet the whole time them dudes got made heart


    people gone jump off Paul William ship now, walk with me will ride with Paul till he retires though thats a real fan
     
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  2. patpatpts

    patpatpts Active Member Full Member

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    is he a better fighter
     
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  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah he is....

    he went in there with an awful. game plan though... i think him & gp just thought they would be able to go into the fight and impose their will on martinez and he would crumble... which he obviously didnt..

    paul just totally rushed the whole fight and didnt take his time at all....
     
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  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Yup he's a better fighter after the first Quintana fight cause now Williams is throwing harder punches instead of pitty pad punches.
     
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  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    im watching this fight as we speak.... old paul would have lost to martinez....
     
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  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    What else was Williams gonna do? That was his only chance of any kind of success at all. He doesn't have the genuine skill to beat Martinez in a chess match. Williams would have been taken to the cleaners if he let Martinez breathe more. No question at all.
     
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  7. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Williams from quintana 1 would have lost last night for sure. Having said that, I do think Paul can fight smarter than that.
     
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  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it woudlnt even be about a chess match.... paul could easily beat martinez by 4 or so rounds if he just took his time a little more

    - he lunges in off balance from to far

    since he does this he leaves him self open to counters while his opponent is fighting off the back foot..

    all he would have to do is fight more up right and not rush what he is doing..... thats the only adjustment he would have to make... i think he would win the rematch convincingly
     
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  9. patpatpts

    patpatpts Active Member Full Member

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    he tried to jump on sergio early like he did quintana in rematch.
     
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  10. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    No, he's not a better fighter. Just because he came in and fought a determined fight does not mean he has gotten better. His judge of distance is awful, he still throws wide, wild shots with his chin in air yelling "Hit me real hard, please!!". As far as technique is concerned he is so far behind at this point in his career that is pretty much unfixable.
     
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  11. patpatpts

    patpatpts Active Member Full Member

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    you have some good points
     
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  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Current Paul did.


    Williams didnt even adjust in this fight he only began winning rounds after Martinez tired himself out trying to knock Williams out. Williams won because of better Athleticsm and poor judging, it certainly was because he was the better fighter.
     
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  13. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    He's the same fighter.He just had a Quintana on his best career night and he didn't have a good night but stylistically he will always have problems with these guys.

    His defense is terrible,doesn't cut the ring off,his chin is in the air,etc.

    Still it was an awesoem fight.
     
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  14. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    New paul lost to martinez in my opinion. But wasn't a blow out
     
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  15. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is a better fight, but also fought a larger, better opponent than Quintana.:roll:
     
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