My Ranking of Wladimir Klitschko presently.....hes got a long way to go

There are several reasons why #42 is too low, but here is a random one:


Two of my favorite non-champion fighters, Jimmy Young and Tim Witherspoon are often ranked in the top25, sometimes top20.

But how much did they really do?

Young was on top of the division for 3-4 years, from Shavers II (74) until Norton (77). He had an impressive streak but did not do all that much outside of that.
What about Witherspoon? He gave Holmes a dead even fight in 83 but had a very good winning streak with a few losses between 82 and 86. After that he was out of the top10 picture, just like Young after '77.

So, they both have four - seven years of being in the top10.

Wlad already had three years at the #1 position and another three years (up to now) of being the best heavyweight out there. So he's already surpassed them, yet he ranks twenty+ spots lower?

 

The man in your avator was only on top for maybe 2 years, until some young blood came along. Given, that Wlad has the same number of years holding a title, more defenses and has beaten more ranked opponents during his career, wouldn't you say he should be rated higher than Liston?

 

Much like Lennox Lewis, Wlad has faced similar acceptance problems with the Western media.

I think Wlad’s problems actually exceed Lewis in terms of acceptance because Lewis was Jamaican, Canadian, and British. This is close to the Western Media. Wlad came from the Ukraine. Many western based boxing fans still have cold war mentality and cannot look past ancient history.

Wlad also had to overcome the stereo type of being the #1 heavyweight in the world who happens to be white. The bias against him from some well known white and minority boxing writers and fans is obvious. Many of the top boxing writers who happened to be Jewish strongly disliked Wlad’s German based promoter, and went out of their way to belittle him based on that alone. This really was not fair.

How Wlad never became bitter is a testimate to his character. Wlad seems to be one of the most intellectually cultured and generous heavyweights of all time. Make no mistake about it, some people will never like Wlad, but at least they admit he is the #1 guy out there at present. His fists took care of that.

 

SuzieQ, I'd be interested in seeing your top 50 list.

I'm surprised Wlad is getting so much praise, but I simply dont know much about him. I didn't realize his winning run since the Brewster loss was meaningful, I'm really not familiar with the fighters of this era.

 

Yeah right.

I bet you have Wlad and Vitali plastered all over your wall sonny.

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I could post a link to a post where you Voted 'Wlad KOs '67 Ali' :hey Do you deny this? I'll find the post and make a thread about it if you want me to :yep

I think Prime Wlad may outpoint a post-75 Ali but its not a given, Ali tended to find a way to win. Jones never beat Ali, no way he took half of the rounds but it was close

 

Find that link. I highly doubt its there, and if by chance it is, there was an X mod who manipulated polls in the past.:deal I know what I said here, and that is what counts.

I think Wlad's chin is better than Norton, and Ali couldn't floor norton in three fights that went the distance. Wlad has a much better chance here that you'll admit.

 

I think Wladimir klitschko deserves to be rated leagues above Jersey Joe Walcott....

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36907 - I dont think any mods have been editing your votes on here Z

Was Wlads chin better than Nortons? Maybe but not a given, Shavers and Foreman hit harder than Sanders/Brewster/Purity. Alis power and stopping ability is a little underrated too

 

Your man doesn't have as many victories over top rated opposition, lost to journeyman early in his career, and never avenged a single loss he ever had. I think Wlad is better than Sonny liston. The truth hurts, but its also a lot of fun.