My Ranking of Wladimir Klitschko presently.....hes got a long way to go

Well thats your opinion and your entitled too it. I disagree strongly, as others here would too. Thats the Beauty of an opinion. When Wlad proves to me he can essentially clean out all the top 10 rated fighters in a 3 year span like walcott did and embarrass at least one great fighter, I will gladly move him right next to Walcott.

 

My man not only beat but he dominated 4 out of the 5 best fighters of his era. He also holds 2 dominating wins over an ATG fighter. He also never lost in his prime in dominating fashion like Wladimir Klitschko did.

Lost to one Ranked fighter in his 7th pro fight on a split decision. This loss was avenged in dominating fashion twice. Your man who had an extensive amatuer background and 20 pro fights lost by TKO, this loss was NEVER avenged. He also subsequently was knocked out twice there after once by a 38 year old man.

Its nice to dream. I hope it brings a smile to your face

 

Not True. Marshall was # 7 rated by Ring Magazine lightheavyweight rankings. He was 18-4 and Young. Doesn't fit the description of a journeyman.

Liston already cleaned out the divison pre title. It is a matter of opinion, but I view the young top contenders Liston beat as alot as major step up to the Monte Barrets, and Derrick Jeffersons.

Is this your pathetic attempt at trying to get under my skin? Marshall did not put liston on his ass, He scored a quick Flashknockown That put Liston to one knee when Listons was caught off balance. I guess Wlad getting decked by TOS and Castillo isnt embarrasing right? Note liston barely weighed 200lb and it was his 8th pro fight. As for it "not being dominant" have you read a fight report or better read Marty Marshalls quotations on the fight?

In response to knocking liston down marshall said "I regret doing that. I wish I hadn't done that, because he got up with a killer look in his eyes and beat me like no other man should be beaten."

Liston brutalized Marshall knocking him down 4 times and finishing him off in the 6th round.

In the 3rd fight, Marshall said "I ran, no way was I going to let him beat on me like in the 2nd fight." Liston won all 10 rounds.

I think your Math is wrong, Liston has 2 unavenged losses.......to Muhammad Ali and when he was around 40 years old vs Leotis Martin.

How many fighters at age 33 would be able to avenge a loss to Muhammad Ali??

I wouldn't expect Wlad to avenge a loss at 40 years old to a powerful young contender. Not to mention did liston really get a chance to avenge his loss to Martin? I mean he was killed shortly after the fight.



I can assure you this, Liston was never brutalized in 2 rounds by a 38 year old man, nor was he stopped in 5 rounds by a contender while in his prime.

 

He was a Ranked contender, since when are journeyman ranked contenders? Did Wlad take on a ranked contender in his 6th professional fight?

Liston fought better fighters

Not quite. It kind of made me laugh out loud, thanx for bringing a smile to my face.

This literally made me laugh out loud. Going into the fight, Sanders was viewed nothing more than a old out of shape journeyman. Now after he knocks out Wlad, hardcore Wlad supporters have been attempting to make Corrie Sanders look like some kind of joe louis. The only world class fighter Sanders had fought going into the Wladimir Klitschko fight was Hasim Rahman. Sanders was knocked out in the 7th round. I saw the fight too. Rahman is essentially a poor mans liston.

But to fully answer your question........Liston fought and knocked out 6'6 225lb Southpaw German Champ Gherad Zech. In case you try to pull "Zech was a bum"....I will use your own arguements against you by saying Zech fought more rated fighters than Corrie Sanders. O one more thing, Zech was 28 when he fought liston, 10 years younger than sanders.

 

No more ridiculous then you saying Wlad was a better fighter than Liston. Don't get so wound up, its one kids opinion. Wlad still has many years left to prove to me that I should move him up.