My take on Joseph Parker

Probably needs to get on the peds like the rest of them. Could be wrong but parker looked great on the way up...he also looks naturally strong. And yet chisora and whyte are bullying him in there.

He should team up with haye. Chisoras almost twice the fighter since moving to him. Weather thats above board or not is anyones guess....but its not being queried...enough guys in the division are under suspicion for it...and its getting the results parker needs atm or hes going no where.

Worth contacting haye imo...cause hes pretty much transformed chisora exactly what parker needs.

 

Haye's fitness coach rumoured to look the spitting image of Harry Potter and known to carry a wand.

 

I had assumed that he will perform vs Chisora really better than Usyk had performed vs Chisora.
Reasons: 1. Parker is younger than Usyk and still experienced.
2. Parker might had been improved since his last fight 3. Parker is not fat and looked in good shape while being 241 lbs not like 217 lbs Usyk vs Chisora, this weight looked more suitable for modern HW division. 4. Chisora is a bit older than in fight vs Usyk.

Parker had gave me upset, like Ruiz vs Arreola.

 

When I first saw Parker I thought he was going places, but it seems to me he plateaued at a certain level and hasn't progressed at all. I hate to put it like this but ,, when the going gets tough he doesn't get going.

 

Parker is over. He's done

 

Chisora has lost a few decisions for political reasons. He's typically been older, more worn, not regarded as a serious contender, has had more losses than his opponents (mostly on account of frequently fighting quality opposition) and has been a troublemaker, as we saw again just a few days ago. He was regarded as less marketable than Helenius, Whyte and Parker so he lost close decisions to all of them in fights that most believed he won. Arguably he should be 35-8 with his best wins being the prior three plus a KO of Takam. Whyte in my eyes is 1-1 with Chisora, 1-1 and brutally KO'd by 41 year old shot Povetkin and 0-1 with AJ. He was also dropped by Rivas in a competitive fight and was an inch away from being finished by Parker (despite biased officiating in his favour). The extremely limited Ruiz's only impressive win is his KO of AJ, which was only possible because a nervous AJ became overzealous and traded with him. Parker beat Ruiz by a very thin margin and has competitive wins over Takam and Hughie, neither of which were as good as Chisora.

Losing to Vitali, Fury and Usyk hardly makes one useless; Whyte, Parker and Ruiz would do no better. Even Pulev from 5 years ago and the best version of Haye would probably be favoured. So there's an argument that a prime Chisora is slightly better than Whyte, Parker and Ruiz, though I'd say he's on exactly the same level, better in some respects and worse in others.

 

Agree with others on here that he has a lot of focus problems in the ring. So listless. Not only does he underperform but it also makes for boring fights. It seems like he has one approach and doesn't make adjustments easily.

 

You do realise that best wins does take into account prime?

Chisora: Takam (Euro level), Price (domestic level and short notice, desperate for cash) and Johnson (ghost of, was never very good), Szpilka (not even Euro level, and shot to pieces), Scott (American area level).

Losses: Fury 2011 (very green Fury who wasn't in very good shape, still not a bad loss), Helenius (controversial, but Helenius had one arm and still was very competitive), Klitschko (one of the greats, but well past it), Haye (never beat anyone at HW and got brutally sparked), Fury (world level), Pulev (Euro level and was completely outclassed in a borefest), Whyte (can't take off 2 mins of every round and expect to win), Kabayel (Euro level, snoozefest), Whyte (came in more motivated than ever and got absolutely sparked), Usyk (world level - totally outclassed), Parker (fringe world, outclassed again).

Whyte: Povetkin (past it, was once world level but not championship level), Rivas (Euro level comparable), Helenius (Euro level), Browne (past it, never great to begin with but beat Chagaev), Chisora x2 (fringe Euro level), Parker (had not long since held WBO, fringe world level), Wach (Euro level).

Losses: Joshua (world level), Povetkin (past it, knocked him down twice and got complacent, still fringe world level competitor, coming off the back of an unlucky draw vs Hunter in which he did not have a legitimate KD scored in his favour - everyone is up Hunter's arse).

It's not even close. You're really clutching at straws. Chisora's "prime" is a myth and is highlighted by the fact his career best win is a Euro level boxer who has no good wins of his own.

 

His losses to Whyte are quite controversial. The first one could have gone either way and probably should have been a draw. The second one, Chisora had a point taken off him controversially and then, was pushing for the KO, which led to him being exposed and getting knocked out himself.

I don't think Chisora would have ever won a heavyweight title in any era but this shouldn't take anything away from him. He's still a very entertaining fighter, a great ticket seller and competitive. It's not always about how good someone is, sometimes we should appreciate the fact that he's a fringe contender and very much so the gatekeeper of the division.

 

His punching technique has deteriorated over the last few years, but overall he has has the physical tools. It's the mental part that is missing, no killer instinct, no sense of urgency and a lack of ringcraft (I'd call that one more of a mental/tactical weakness than a physical one).

 

Had the ages and reputations been reversed with everything else held constant, Chisora would have got the nod over Helenius, Whyte and Parker. Whether the older and more worn Chisora beat Whyte and Parker is debatable but these were very close fights. I'd expect prime Pulev to beat Ruiz based on styles and Parker based on will to win, Haye beat Valuev and was a big puncher and Chisora came into the Kabayel fight completely unmotivated and paid for it. Povetkin incurred a lot of wear and tear against Hunter and was a year older against Whyte, which counts for a lot in your 40's. I had Povetkin losing without the knockdown so a draw was a fair result but is Hunter even that good? Usyk not only schooled him but battered him late in the fight as a cruiser and Povetkin was badly faded at 40. At 41 he was a ghost of his former self but still had enough about him to hang in there after taking a beating and blast glass-chinned Whyte out with one punch.

Chisora has been a victim of boxing politics and has fought wearing, quality opposition more frequently than Whyte, whose best legit wins are Chisora, Rivas, Helenius and Parker, while arguably Chisora's best wins are Whyte, Takam, Helenius and Parker. Pudding Browne's best win was a shot, hepatitis-ridden Chagaev and Wach is an iron-chinned mid-level journeyman who's a serial loser even at Euro level; these wins aren't even as impressive as Szpilka in 2 and Price in 4. So overall there's very little to split them.

 

I can't tell.
Usyk fight at CW Hunter had vs prime Usyk who then had peaked in his real prime.
Usyk then was 30 y.o and had 11-0-0 ( 10 KOs ) pro record while Hunter had 12-0-0 ( 8KOs ) pro record. Nothing here had suggested that Hunter then might be with more power than this 30 y.o Usyk's version. Usyk also was very experienced in highest level amateur fights, this made him as boxer with good footwork, jab and even in amateurs Usyk usually was more agile than his opponents.
Loss vs prime Usyk version not likely might reduce boxer's credentials.
Vs old " legless " Povetkin this draw had made me more suspicious about Hunter.
Okey, he is younger than Usyk and is at HW, I think he still might improve.

 

I agree with you and the original poster. Early in the fight I noticed a couple of nice pivots that left Chisora 's back to him and little check hooks. Those 2 parts were an improvement but over all he's still not proactive enough.
There were opportunities to step left or right and nail Chisora on the way in that weren't taken.

 

The one good thing out of all this is that Andy Lee saw all these problems too - especially the lack of "killer instinct".

He will go all-out in the next fight to get Parker's head into the right space. If anyone can, Andy Lee can.

 

Lol no Parker needs Tony Sims