My take on Marciano Vs Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by True Writer, Jan 5, 2009.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Met Ali in the early 90's. He was a legit 6-3.

    Marciano would be facing the tallest quality heavy he ever faced, the fastest hands he ever faced, the fastest feet he ever faced, and the best chin he ever faced, the best jab he ever faced...

    Ali would be facing nothing he hadn't faced in the past.
     
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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't have an agenda I believe Ali beats Marciano .that's common knowledge on here I imagine.What has that to do with Ali winning10 out of 12 rounds against Chuvalo?
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I also believe Ali beats Marciano but I imagine it would be a very grueling fight for him.
     
  5. mcvey

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    He stops Marciano on cuts after about 8 rds imo. And he might be pissing blood after that one!
     
  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I pick Ali to beat mostly everyone. Even Marciano...but I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if Marciano would be able to beat him. It’s more of a styles thing and if Frazier beat Ali (not a prime Ali but not far off) Marciano whom was better in every way would give him an even harder time. As far as “cutting” for Marciano is concerned it’s extrnemly over stated on this forum. He’s never been stopped off cuts and I don’t see it happening here. Marciano would have a harder time w Foreman and Tyson as opposed to the Ali Holmes types. If they fought ten times I’d say Ali takes 6/10
     
  7. Seamus

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    I also believe that Frazier beats Marciano 8 times out of 10. Just a better athlete, faster motor, more dominant main weapon, much quicker on his feet.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Marciano would have been stopped twice on cuts in Ali's time ,against Simmons and Charles.
    If you are cut in all your major fights,and several minor ones.
    Moore
    Louis
    Walcott
    Charles
    Surely that is a factor when you are pitted against a fast handed boxer with a rapier jab?
     
  9. Gazelle Punch

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    I’m not so sure they stop Charles and no one has seen the Simmons other then reports (I’ll assume accuracy that they were bad). Championship fights a little leeway is usually given. If I remember correctly Vitali was given a round or two with that bad eye as well before being stopped. It’s a possibility that he gets cut but it’s just often stated to often that he gets stopped on cuts when he was never actually stopped on cuts. Besides the two bad incidents (plenty of minor ones) he did have 47 other fights with no major problems. Odds are it’s not a major factor. I think he gets out pointed on most occasions as I don’t see anyone really knocking out a prime Ali.