My thoughts on a couple talked about matchups

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    - Thurman should not be fighting a prospect at this point. Don't get me wrong, I think Spence is totally legit but Thurman should be fighting top 5 guys right now. Thurman sounds offended by it.

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    I am probably in the huge minority here, but this isn't a fight I'm begging for. Lemieux absolutely has the power to hurt GGG and shock him but realistically, based on the way Lemieux fights, I doubt he sees the end of the 3rd round. Curious to see how GGG handles his power, but Lemieux gets wiped out before Anber can throw in the towel again.

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    Hell no. Hell no. But, not surprisingly you see his dimwitted fanbase talk about "he deserves to fight whoever he wants". So it's ok for him to fight a guy that Brandon Rios would even walk through? I agree with Thurman...fight him or Brook.

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    Canelo is gonna lose. Cotto can bang and he can move. Canelo cannot outbox Cotto. He'd have to KO him which is a possibility. Good fight...if it happens.

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    No thanks. Guess God didn't tell Manny that it is a sin to deceive your fanbase and the NSAC. You had your chance and you got soundly beat.

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    I actually am interested in this one... I think it will be fun. Could be Rios' last fight, but he may even pull it off. Tough SOB.
     
  2. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree on all of them except iv canelo beating canelo. I dont beleive this cotto revival nonsense his still the same fighter that got beat by trout. Beating cripples and zombies doesnt change that
     
  3. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree with your point, but I think Cotto still has ok movement...which is Canelo's kryptonite. I do think there is a real possibility of Cotto taking a knee again, but if I were to bet, I think Cotto pulls it out.
     
  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thurman vs Spence- I think Spence needs a few more fights before he gets in the ring with Thurman

    GGG vs Lemieux- I'd love this fight. It wouldn't last long, but it'd be hella fun to watch while it lasted. Unfortunately, GB won't let it happen.

    Floyd vs Berto/Mayfield- I'd rather douse my eyes in gasoline and set them on fire.

    Cotto vs Canelo- Great fight! I really think Canelo has a chance. I can't wait to see it!!! I hope Canelo wins just because I know there's a 0% chance that Cotto will face GGG.

    Pac vs Floyd 2- Outcome will end up the same, but I'd like to see Manny put on a better performance and healthy. I'll be attending this one too! I saw the new arena a few weeks ago when I was in Vegas and it looks super impressive.

    Rios vs Brook Ehh. I feel Brook would outbox him.
     
  5. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post. I only really disagree with the Floyd/Pac because if it were any other fighter, and they said their shoulder was the reason for the performance, no one would be asking for a rematch so why should Pac be any different? Manny simply didn't do enough, even before he said the injury flared up. Had he come out and was all over Floyd (even for 2 rounds) then I would totally agree with you. He lied to thew public and that is unacceptable to me.
     
  6. CST80

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    Thurman vs Spence - Far too soon for Spence to step up especially against a huge puncher who's becoming increasingly hard to hit clean Thurman will dominate him and stop him.

    GGG vs Lemieux - It isn't going to happen for a while, but when it does it'll be quick and brutal, if Lemieux can force GGG to go backwards and lands enough bombs early to get GGG to respect his power, we might see a different more tentative GGG, but he'll most likely KO David.

    Floyd vs Berto/Mayfield - What abuffy said.

    Cotto vs Canelo- Canelo will dominate and stop Cotto relatively early, this will not be a cripple or a zombie, and Canelo's defense is underrated, Cotto will rarely land flush on him, and Canelo's body shots will weaken Cotto and lead to either Cotto skipping backwards for the last 7 rounds and being stopped late or engaging and getting stopped early.

    Pac vs Floyd 2 - I'm up for it, it'll probably be more of the same though.

    Rios vs Brook - I really want to see this match and I think Roios has a chance to pull off the upset her. Rios is a tremendous inside fighter, something Porter isn't and his overhands are brutall and will cause Special K some problems.
     
  7. YCGS

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    It is possible that Cotto's "canfest" has swayed my thoughts a bit, but I do think he would move too much. We all agree it would be fun though.
     
  8. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a touchy subject. If it were any other fighter would I want it? Probably not. But Pacman isn't just any other fighter. He's Fighter of The Decade, one of the best of this Era. If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's him. I mean, look what he's done in the sport!

    I do hate how he never said he was hurt. However, I can't blame him too much. He was set to make 150+ million dollars and he thought he'd be able to get a shot leading up to the fight. Now, it's hours before and you're told you can't. What do you do? **** of fans for fighting injured or **** of fans because you pull out of the fight hours before? Like Kellerman said here, it was really a f**** if you do and f***** if you don't situation.

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  9. punisher

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    -Spence should be fighting someone like Alexander or Berto, as a step up. Thurman should be insulted.
    -GGG vs Lemiux, sure why not? It would be entertaining.
    -Khan or Thurman would be OK for Floyd. He beats both, though. Honestly, I'd prefer Khan vs Thurman on his undercard (or Porter vs either). If it must be Berto or Mayfield for Floyd, it sure as hell better not be Mayfield.
    -I pick Canelo over Cotto by TKO, possibly.
    -I don't need to see Pac get schooled again.
    -I don't mind Rios vs Brook if that's the best Brook can do. But is it? Anyway...easy work for Brook.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    For about the only time I can think of I 100% agree with Kellerman on this. He says same thing Ive said all along it was the NSAC that sabotaged Manny Pacquaio. I truly feel Mayweathers feared Pac would dominate if he was pain free they bleated & :| to NSAC to ban Pac's todoral so they did along with his water & the vitamins taken before a fight too
    To me it was BLATANT CORRUPTION nothing less
     
  11. YCGS

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    I 100% see what you're saying and I think your points are valid. For me personally Pac disappointed me on a few levels and didn't really show me anything that would show that the result would be any different. Pac at least had some leverage last time in negotiations. Floyd will have every conceivable advantage this time and there is no guarantee Pac will be back to 100%.
     
  12. BlueBottle

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    Thurman/Spence - I don't think Thurman will take that fight. He is ready for a title fight now.
    GGG/Lemieux - GGG will KO Lemieux faster than against Bradley at lease Bradley can box on his back foot.
     
  13. abuffy

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    I 100% agree. Pacquiao disappointed me on at least 10 different levels. Though, now, I think he realizes how bad the fight ultimately was. Once the dust settled, he told Filipino media how upset he was, that he literally cried reviewing the tape, and guilt-ridden that he let his country and fans down.

    But yes, Pacquiao now has 0 leverage and should be thankful for whatever Mayweather offers him. I don't think Mayweather will try to steal from him. He's a good businessman and respects Pac. I think it'll be 75/35 split which Pacquiao should happily accept.

    My heart still hurts from how awful the first fight was. Like I sat there and told my friend when the fight was approaching, "You know, the WORST thing that could happen with this fight is someone getting injured. That would be sooo horrible!" Ha hahahah ahhh whatever, time heals all wounds. :good