My thoughts on Floyd's refusal to fight Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Stovepipe, Jan 7, 2010.


  1. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't find any intelligent answer as to how the 24 days of no blood testing which means 19 0r 20 days of so called "juicing" since he would need, as stated here, four or five days to clean out his blood for the post fight blood tst, will effectively help Pacquiao. I also can't find any drug that can do this without the help of other drugs that will be caught in urine testing.

    What specifically please, what is the name of the drug that can help Manny in a two week cycle, that does not need another drug to work with that shows up in urine testing.

    What is it?

    It shocks me that Mayweather would refuse this kind of money. Holy ****. 20 to 40 million. Pac doesn't want to get weakened like he was in Morales 1. I don't think he had a time machine when he gave the interview in 05 stating that he was weakened by the blood loss. To me, that is legit.

    If Mayweather really thought Pac was juicing, he would see that the tests they agreed to were enough, plus ten million of Manny's purse after the fight if he fails the test is plenty of extra incentive to move forward against a fighter you claim is "easy work"

    But May didn't want a DLH rematch which he would have gotten a bigger share than the first fight even if it wasn't as big a PPV, it still would have been pretty fat.

    He retires instead of fights, he fights wrestlers, he has never fought a prime winning welter and I honestly think, as mega talented as he clearly is, and as financially hard up as he is reported to be, that the idea of getting beaten down by Pacquiao shakes him to his core,

    No, I don't think Mayweather is a "coward" I just feel silly calling someone that does what he does for a living a coward (except for Margarito for loading his gloves) but I think his ego can't deal with the possibility of getting the crap beat out of himself in the ring, especially by Pacquiao.

    I think he will be happier to fight Mathew Hatton, Paulie Malignaggi and than Ricky Hatton and someone else he feels he can comfortably take out. I mean, christ, look at his last fight, freaking Marquez at 145 and then he doesn't even make the weight, Marquez a guy who was not big at 130, a career 126 man, who had some great results at 35 where he debuted in his mid thirties, has to go up to 45 and May ****s him over at the last minute and doesn't even make weight (ok technically they change the contract and buy off marquez but seriously what is marquez going to do? blow the whole thing?) and in a fight he is dominating, May still plays it excruciatingly safe, almost fighting what could be considered a "negative" fight.

    Yes, Mayweather is an incredible talent there is no question, but he avoided Mosley, Margo, made Hatton come up to 47 (nobody talks about that when they bash Pac for fighting dlh at 47) and avoided Cotto and all of the real danger at welter. OK, you can say some of them had excuses or did not want to fight May at a certain time, but all of them, all of them truly wanted to fight him at one point or another quite clearly and he never would take the fights.

    Mayweather was fighting the riskier fights at 30 / 35 but not now.

    Maybe though, if we put ourselves in his shoes, it makes sense.

    May and his fam are the biggest *******s in the world because they think he is so damn good he has to be on drugs. Right there, even if Pac is not on drugs, which he isn't, would you fight a guy that you thought was SUPERHUMAN????

    I think it is quite possible that he doesn't fight Pac, and yes, that he didn't fight Oscar in a rematch, because, no matter the money, he sees a damn good chance of taking a loss or getting seriously hurt and knocked out.

    And he just finds a post loss world unbearable at this point in his life. He has already retired a few times and he sees his post boxing persona, the undefeated greatest boxer of all time, self proclaimed, and him and his dad and two uncles and all ***** Nation can blab about it for here on end.

    A KO loss or bad defeat ruins all this.

    Yes, he wants to make money. But he can take the long way to 25 million and I think he is happy to do it.

    I will be shocked if he fights any seriously risky fight after refusing this fight. He won't really understand how broke he is when he keeps getting these cash injections of 5 mill from fighting easy fights. Then, he will mismanage his cash and probably have to come back again and again.

    I hope I am wrong about all of this and that the fight gets made. Part of me, even now still thinks that it will.

    end of novel

    coffee makes the keys move quickly
     
  2. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Superb:deal Nice compo off what we've all been saying, now then!!!! lets see if we can get some of these Floyd sweethearts off of suicide watch:lol:
     
  3. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Twats.

    Floyd didn't refuse to fight Manny he simply refused to change his stance on the PED testing - the one thing he wouldn't budge on after agreeing to doing everything else the way Manny wanted.

    It's WaPakMan that doesn't want to fight under that concession because he is a ****ing cheat. Deal with it.
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Your avatar says more than this post.
     
  5. Excellent post. Prepare for a barrage of idiocy similar to what was posted 2 posts above me from people with avatars similar to the poster of said post.
     
  6. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    1. blood test before the Press Conference
    2. blood test 24 days before the fight
    3. blood test at the dressing room right after the fight (if anyone took any substance as aid for the fight, it wouldn't magically disappear fifteen minutes after right?)
    4. unlimited urine testing during the whole training period (urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH)

    would any cheater propose that kind of testing?

    Floyd thinks that proposal isn't enough to protect him from a possible cheat. he must have been very afraid lol
     
  7. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    It must be lonely on whatever planet your living on
     
  8. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    Nice article Stovepipe. I didn't know you were that articulate. :lol:
    I am now going to stop saying that "Floyd is the MOST talented". He is so mentally weak that no amount of talent can balance that out.
     
  9. hmm

    hmm damn chairs Full Member

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    hmm says . . .

    nice rant... I agree and you backed everything up nicely.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think FMJ was genuinely scared of Manny. He might project a lot of self confidence, but deep-down he probably knew that Manny could beat him, and was fearful of losing his unbeaten record which he claims makes him the GOAT.
     
  11. 8count

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    and to think that I predicted Floyd to win this by playing like he always does against boxer-punchers. **** it!!!! what's wrong with that guy?
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Weren't you defending him like... a day ago?
     
  13. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he is clean, why not just take random blood testing?...It's a pretty simple question?

    Everybody beats around the bush about this...

    Victor Conte, the father of modern day juicing, says some PED's you can get out of your system in hours....also, what is the point in doing testing period, if it is not random?...
     
  14. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    Excellent post there, Stovepipe.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    disregard, that wasn't you... sorry.