My thoughts on Floyd's refusal to fight Pacquiao

zangetsu · Jan 7, 2010

Indio-Bandido said: ↑

10 million for every extra pound is ridiculous? the blood test is the sanest thing i've ever heard. in fact, it should be mandatory for all boxers for every fight. boxing is dangerous.
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If PBF didn't have these 'SPECIAL' demands, then we would have a megafight.

Didn't NSAC already have these mandatory testing on the fights?

Cocteau · Jan 7, 2010

I bet that even if Pac agreed to giving blood every round. Floyd wouldn't sign the contract still, he'll go back re-negotiating for the glove size or the purse split, etc. Whatever it takes to have a fallout negotiation.

Sinew · Jan 7, 2010

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I can't find any intelligent answer as to how the 24 days of no blood testing which means 19 0r 20 days of so called "juicing" since he would need, as stated here, four or five days to clean out his blood for the post fight blood tst, will effectively help Pacquiao. I also can't find any drug that can do this without the help of other drugs that will be caught in urine testing.

What specifically please, what is the name of the drug that can help Manny in a two week cycle, that does not need another drug to work with that shows up in urine testing.

What is it?

It shocks me that Mayweather would refuse this kind of money. Holy ****. 20 to 40 million. Pac doesn't want to get weakened like he was in Morales 1. I don't think he had a time machine when he gave the interview in 05 stating that he was weakened by the blood loss. To me, that is legit.

If Mayweather really thought Pac was juicing, he would see that the tests they agreed to were enough, plus ten million of Manny's purse after the fight if he fails the test is plenty of extra incentive to move forward against a fighter you claim is "easy work"

But May didn't want a DLH rematch which he would have gotten a bigger share than the first fight even if it wasn't as big a PPV, it still would have been pretty fat.

He retires instead of fights, he fights wrestlers, he has never fought a prime winning welter and I honestly think, as mega talented as he clearly is, and as financially hard up as he is reported to be, that the idea of getting beaten down by Pacquiao shakes him to his core,

No, I don't think Mayweather is a "coward" I just feel silly calling someone that does what he does for a living a coward (except for Margarito for loading his gloves) but I think his ego can't deal with the possibility of getting the crap beat out of himself in the ring, especially by Pacquiao.

I think he will be happier to fight Mathew Hatton, Paulie Malignaggi and than Ricky Hatton and someone else he feels he can comfortably take out. I mean, christ, look at his last fight, freaking Marquez at 145 and then he doesn't even make the weight, Marquez a guy who was not big at 130, a career 126 man, who had some great results at 35 where he debuted in his mid thirties, has to go up to 45 and May ****s him over at the last minute and doesn't even make weight (ok technically they change the contract and buy off marquez but seriously what is marquez going to do? blow the whole thing?) and in a fight he is dominating, May still plays it excruciatingly safe, almost fighting what could be considered a "negative" fight.

Yes, Mayweather is an incredible talent there is no question, but he avoided Mosley, Margo, made Hatton come up to 47 (nobody talks about that when they bash Pac for fighting dlh at 47) and avoided Cotto and all of the real danger at welter. OK, you can say some of them had excuses or did not want to fight May at a certain time, but all of them, all of them truly wanted to fight him at one point or another quite clearly and he never would take the fights.

Mayweather was fighting the riskier fights at 30 / 35 but not now.

Maybe though, if we put ourselves in his shoes, it makes sense.

May and his fam are the biggest *******s in the world because they think he is so damn good he has to be on drugs. Right there, even if Pac is not on drugs, which he isn't, would you fight a guy that you thought was SUPERHUMAN????

I think it is quite possible that he doesn't fight Pac, and yes, that he didn't fight Oscar in a rematch, because, no matter the money, he sees a damn good chance of taking a loss or getting seriously hurt and knocked out.

And he just finds a post loss world unbearable at this point in his life. He has already retired a few times and he sees his post boxing persona, the undefeated greatest boxer of all time, self proclaimed, and him and his dad and two uncles and all ***** Nation can blab about it for here on end.

A KO loss or bad defeat ruins all this.

Yes, he wants to make money. But he can take the long way to 25 million and I think he is happy to do it.

I will be shocked if he fights any seriously risky fight after refusing this fight. He won't really understand how broke he is when he keeps getting these cash injections of 5 mill from fighting easy fights. Then, he will mismanage his cash and probably have to come back again and again.

I hope I am wrong about all of this and that the fight gets made. Part of me, even now still thinks that it will.

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Good post. You have to be brave to fight. But you can still be afraid of losing , and show signs of a coward in the process.

Sinew · Jan 7, 2010

think he will be happier to fight Mathew Hatton, Paulie Malignaggi and than Ricky Hatton and someone else he feels he can comfortably take out. I mean, christ, look at his last fight, freaking Marquez at 145 and then he doesn't even make the weight, Marquez a guy who was not big at 130, a career 126 man, who had some great results at 35 where he debuted in his mid thirties, has to go up to 45 and May ****s him over at the last minute and doesn't even make weight (ok technically they change the contract and buy off marquez but seriously what is marquez going to do? blow the whole thing?) and in a fight he is dominating, May still plays it excruciatingly safe, almost fighting what could be considered a "negative" fight.

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I still refuse to watch that crap. Just the post fight when Mosely punks the hell out of Mayweather.

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