My thoughts on how Cotto can use the tools at his disposal to beat Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bogotazo, Feb 6, 2012.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's how I feel about it, to a degree. Mayweather doesn't box as correctly as Hopkins used to, but he's developed a similar instinct for the flow between offence and defence over the years.

    Maybe even more than that, he has a natural eye for any way to gain an advantage. This can't be taught, and this, more than technique is something that he has in common with Hopkins, I think.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I definitely see the potential to call him a link between Hopkins and Jones stylistically, though I don't think he would be able to last like Hopkins...I think without his reflexes, his formulaic styles of fighting wouldn't be able to adapt as well. Though that eye for picking which punches to choose and whatnot is truly a gift they share.

    Also, I've been lurking on the Classic Forum forever; I appreciate the formal invite though! Truly an honorable section of ESB.
     
  3. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Slow guy jabbing at a fighter who can throw straight rights faster than said jab is not a recipe for success. The idea Cotto switching between orthodox and southpaw in front of Mayweather is comical. Your also mistaken about Cotto being more destructive or stronger. Come fight night Floyd will be stronger, he will be faster, he will be more coordinated, he will be the puncher, more skilled, and pretty much more of everything. The fact that Cotto will be at a disadvantage in every possible way is why most people think Floyd should be an overwhelming favorite.

    Cotto has fresher legs and will need to stay away and use them. His legs and stamina are the only bright sides I can find at this point.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You're a fanboy, go away.
     
  5. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This thread makes it pretty obvious who the fan boy is.
     
  6. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i always thought that
     
  7. Liu Jian

    Liu Jian New Member Full Member

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    A fanboy seems to be anyone who thinks Mayweather has most of the advantages in this fight.

    Imo, Mayweather's 5 inch reach advantage and superior conditioning will be key in this fight. Cotto isn't as slow as some people have said, but his head movement isn't great. I see him eating an awful lot of straight right hands in this fight. Of course Cotto will lands jabs, but enough to stop Mayweather landing his right? Nope. And eventually Cotto will be disinclined to throw as many jabs which will lead to him trying to get close and land power shots.

    For me the Hatton fight showed how good Mayweather is on the inside against shorter fighters with shorter arms, and with his upper body movement he should be able to cope with Cotto there aswell.

    I still think that is Cotto's best chance though. Get on the inside and throw a lot of left hooks to the body like he used to. If he tries to turn this into a chess match he will be thoroughly outboxed unless he is able to hurt Mayweather early on to the extent that Floyd never fully recovers.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I've had no problems with the many people that still pick Floyd and counter the points in my write-up. Most of them respect the sport and its fighters by discussing rationally and objectively, while a few act like haters and act like it's an insult to even discuss the dynamics of the fight. That latter part includes you, so go away.

    I said in the opening post that I understand completely why people think Floyd will win handily. These are some broader but completely valid reasons. One thing is disagreeing, the other is exaggerating flaws and acting like a dick, which you're not doing here :thumbsup

    Isolating the right hand will get Cotto halfway home IMO. We'll see if his trainer can do a decent job figuring out how.
     
  9. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One thing Cotto must do, is train with intensity. At speed. He looked to have some speed and snap back in his punches for the Margarito fight, in the 24/7 you saw Pedro Diaz making Cotto work hard in the gym. Simple excercises like throwing two small balls around while Cotto walked him down, or even something as trivial like throwing at full speed when hitting the bag or mitts, has a major effect on a fighters speed.

    Joe Santiago and even Manny Steward seemed to allow Cotto to hit mitts in slow motion, which IMO had a detrimental effect on his timing and punching speed, Santiago was not a Boxing trainer period, and I think Steward was focusing on making Cotto's technique perfect.

    Cotto must be fully tuned and focused for this fight, if he's off the pace then he'll get busted up.
     
  10. SunTzu

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    :deal :hi:
     
  11. Liu Jian

    Liu Jian New Member Full Member

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    Imo, Mayweather's straight right hand is the best punch in boxing. Decent power, but incredible timing and accuracy. Sure Cotto can circle away from it, but his only chance is to jab a lot and then follow up with lots of left hooks to the body...unfortunately Cotto doesn't have the stamina to keep up the necessary workrate to win 7+ rounds imo.
     
  12. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    People keep repeating this whole stamina issue thing with Cotto. He has only gassed from being under a ton of pressure and having to move constantly. In every other fight he's been in, his stamina has been fine. Floyd is not a pressure fighter with high volume. He fights at a steady pace and prefers it, much like Cotto.
     
  13. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever you say boss. I'm far from a hater in pointing out why Cotto has little to no chance in this fight. most people feel this way and thats why Floyd is a 7 to 1 favorite. I feel my critiques of your original post are valid.
     
  14. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto runs out of gas in late rounds. He will be ko.
     
  15. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    Delusions of grandeur...