My thoughts on how Cotto can use the tools at his disposal to beat Mayweather

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  1. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    yeah, what is your prediction? Mine in floyd 8-4/9-3 UD.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    cotto would not be much bigger than floyd. cotto is not even a big WW when he was at the weight.
     
  3. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great thread paisano! Well a lot has already been said so ill just say a couple of things.

    Mayweather is the obvious favorite but it wont be as easy as people think. Although Mayweather is an obvious breed those that come to outbox Cotto usually fail. Cotto has been beaten by high volume pressure fighters. He run over every "boxer" he has faced. Again Mayweather is a total different animal buts its something to note.

    Mayweathers right hand will probably be the most dangerous weapon. Cotto cuts easily and if Floyd gets comfortable and starts to operate with it Cotto is going to be in trouble.

    Cottos bodywork needs to come back. Mayweather is very sharp on the inside so a calculated attack needs to be done.

    Cotto seems to be a bit more patient than before dont know how much this will affect the fight whether in a positive manner or negative one.

    The jab. Cotto needs the jab to win.

    Cottos timing is also underrated along with his deceptive handspeed. Mayweather is the clear favorite and rightfully so but Cotto will not go down without a fight.
     
  4. light-welter

    light-welter Active Member Full Member

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    Think the pace could suit Cotto against Mayweather as he seems to prefer a slower pace. Cotto has flaws which Mayweather will punish him for, but i think Cotto might have some success.
     
  5. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Cool comments so far, fair judgments of both fighters. Word to the Greatest Hits, it's been a while since I watched his.

    Unfortunately I can't make predictions in these types of situations, because I'm praying for the best possible scenario for my guy (Miguel), and so I can't have faith in him and at the same time give in to what is popularly conceived as probability. It was the same for the Pacquiao-JMM 3 fight; I said to myself, "if Marquez comes in good shape, then anything is possible, because Pacquiao's improvements are quantifiable and he can take them away." There was no way I was about to start entertaining ideas about how things could go wrong when I saw a way they could come out better than ever. Lucky for me, against all odds, it happened. We'll see what happens on May 5th.
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I thought I'd post this for further intelligent discussion; in this fight, Floyd uses a lot of his classic style, and comes forward quite often. These middle rounds were the most eye-catching to me and caught my attention, because although Emmanuel's guard and showmanship saw him hit far too often against Floyd's amazing marksmanship, he had a lot of success in mixing it up on the inside. As I said before, a lot of fighters smother their own offense on the inside in their desperation to get at Floyd, but here, Emmanuel was able to back Floyd up, lower his output in spots with a half-decent jab, and do good work on the inside without being frantic; he was very physical, was able to move Floyd's arms and body out of position, and utilized his left hand repeatedly to attack the body and the head. Cotto has much better fundamentals than Augustus, a tighter guard, and heavier, more accurate punches. If Cotto's Plan A is to use educated pressure and maximize a strength advantage, then there are avenues for him to have some success.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnPddXXR4Xo&feature=related[/ame]

    What's interesting is that not only does he use a lot of lefts on the inside like we might expect Cotto to, but after he starts taking a beating at the end of round 7, he turns southpaw in the middle of the 8th and is able to land some straight lefts to Floyd's head and body, and mix in a right hook. If and when Floyd comes to fight, Cotto can use this dynamic to his advantage much more effectively.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irki6MLykuE&feature=related[/ame]
     
  8. siberiantiger

    siberiantiger New Member Full Member

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    Cant wait for this one !

    Cotto was very good against Margarito, almost the best Cotto ever and the win also gave him his self-confidence back.

    I believe his cuban trainer comes up with a good game plan and like i said before, they know the possible problem with Cottos stamina and they will work on that.
     
  9. gabrielito23

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    This is the only way Cotto can use any tools to beat Mayweather:

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  10. Caper

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  11. Caper

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    A good percentage of Cotto's attack needs to be executed while swaying towards Floyd's left. Floyds jab is educated, hard and accurate but as many already stated its rarely pumped out in high volume and it would behoove Cotto to work Floyds left side while sacraficing jabs to the body and face rather than the straight rights he would eat attempting to execute a barage of left hands to the body and face of floyd. If Floyd allows this fight to be a chess match and he will find Cotto to a formadible opponant, I think Floyd needs to apply the pressure if he really wants to impress because giving Cotto enough time to think in there will only improve his chances.
     
  12. Uncle Rico

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    I hope Cotto is able to do some of those things you’re asking, Bogotazo. But I just don’t see the same extent of improvements that you do. Not enough to beat Floyd, anyway. The right hand is a little too underdeveloped to be any more effective than what Mosley’s was. And without the right hand, I can’t imagine him targeting Floyd’s vulnerable left rib-cage either. He’s got a dangerous left, but even that’ll be mostly blocked by Floyd’s right arm.

    At best, I can see him utilizing the jab to offset him and steal one or two rounds. And when Floyd goes into a defensive shell, he’ll maybe steal a couple more based on activity. As you mentioned in your initial post, it’ll be helpful if this can be done right at the beginning.

    But ultimately, I see Floyd’s crisp straight rights and uppercuts on the inside eating away and minimizing Cotto’s effectiveness as the fight goes on.

    It’s a nice thought seeing Floyd dropping his right in an exchange and eating a nice left-hook, though :think. One can wish.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    Allah knows how to spell Mayweather:yep
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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    Go away, Michigan.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

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