My thoughts on Joe Calzaghe and Floyd Mayweather Jr

Then he missed great fights didn't he. Point proven. It has nothing to do with what you think is greatness. We are talking about perception. You said he tried to get Jones. I guess you think Jones should go down to him?

 

Maybe he will, maybe he wont...this is boxing and anything can happen. Let's wait until November 3rd and we'll find out:good

 

You are talking about YOUR perception and generalizing public perception. You need to learn how to make a point. Facts trump opinioins, which is all you've got.

 

so emotional :-(

 

Taylor is undisputed NOW at 160. PBF is undisputed NOW at 147.

You are contradicting yourself.

 

Not really, you just like to twist things into something they aren't to avoid actual points.

I said Lewis was rated highly. He was. He beat RATED fighters and former champions and ATG. They happen to be American. He was rated highly because he beat highly rated fighters. If their were highly rated foreign HW's and Lewis beat them, then he would still have been rated highly.

You prove this point by pointing out that Calzaghe has been rated highly for years at SMW. He got their by beating highly rated fighters....many of whom were not American. So it's about fighting highly rated fighters NOT where they are from. Otherwise Calzaghe wouldn't have been rated very highly at all.

YOU are talking about PUBLIC perception, something you cannot prove. Calzaghe isn't given his due like you think he should and you want to argue that. Fine, like I said, he hasn't beaten alot of great fighters. He has missed quite a few. Your argument there is that he shouldn't have to leave his division. Well thats your opinion. Hatton beat an ATG and the lineal champion. He is now about to fight P4P #1...thats why he has respect.

You have no actual point other than your opinion and trying to lean on the American bias BS. If you beat highly rated fighters, no one cares where you're from.

 

And Calzaghe won't hold all 4 belts if he beats Kessler.

But you don't count the IBF stripping him. He never lost it in the ring, so while someone else holds the belt, he is still champion right?

Taylor BEAT Hopkins when Hopkins held all 4 belts.

PBF beat Baldomir who beat Judah when he held all 4 belts.

When you beat the undiputed champion, you are undisputed. Isn't that your concept with Calzaghe? atsch

 

Pathetic. I used Ring to point out a British fighter who was highly ranked, rated whatever you like. I also used Ring to rate Calzaghe. So how did I use 2 different measuring sticks?

You keep trying to make this into some opinion based bash the Americans escapade as is your way. Americans think Kessler is going to win? Who is the betting favorite in Vegas Blocky? For that matter Kessler isn't American, so that was a moronic statement to begin with.

Can you dispute that Lewis beat highly rated fighters? No, you can't. They happen to be American, but that doesn't prove your point. ANY fighter who beats alot of ranked fighters gets respect. They happen to be American this time. Pacman has gotten a ton of respect by beating Mexican icons...so there goes that theory. Or does this only apply to Calzaghe?

 

How many times has Calzaghe defended all 4 belts? Oh yeah...thats right:deal

No, its not different. They beat the champion. Are you going to hold it against Calzaghe that Kessler had 2 of the belts? Is he benefiting from the work of another fighter?

When you beat the man, you are the man. The others are only title holders.

 

Blocky, you're an absolute ****. There is no reason to get that personal when discussing boxing. It's not even some poking jokes, you have nothing but vulgarity and an immature lack of respect against seasoned posters who are willing to debate with you.

Find another site, please.

 

Hey, whats up with Mijares? I saw you rated him pretty high. I honestly can say I have never seen him fight. Is he THAT good?

 

Amsterdam,

you have just insulted all ****s everywhere by including Blocky in their number !

 

Well, you should know by now what impresses me mate.

Yes, he's that good, he's also a work in progress at age 25. The only problem I have with him are a few defensive flaws, but offensively he's unbelievable.

He drilled Arce over 12 and took all but 1, it was just like Calz-Lacy, but from a stand up style, he was timing and landing 4-5 and 6 shots combinations at times and showed no holes except for the defense in a few area's.

Think about this -

Solid chin
Endless stamina
Accurate
Pin point constant jab
Fantastic footwork
A wide variety of shots
The ability to pop off combinations from a variety of situations
Great timing
'Workable' defense
Great hand and footspeed

That's how I'd describe Mijares and only after I managed to pick up a few more of his bouts. I am very high on the kid at the moment and think he will clear out the 112-118 general crop if he's given the oppurtunity.

 

Thats crap..no way did Joey try for any of those guys..he did not even settle for less.....WAYYYY off.