My thoughts on Mayweather's retirement.

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sorry man a big block of text like that is a nightmare to read. just my opinion. some good points. maybe edit it?

 

Good fair post. I do agree that even I would love to see him fight Cotto and BADLY but to see some people say he needs Cotto(you obviously didn't say it) is pathetic when it's damn clear it's the other way around. As far as accomplishments are concerned, it's fair to say that he as accomplished more than Williams/Cotto/Margarito combined and if he returns I would like to see him fight Cotto and after it no one worth fighting is left. A Margarito fight would've been as big/good as the Baldomir fight, only difference is that the Baldomir fight at the time was worth WAY more(the undisputed title and #1 spot) for the same amount of money. Beating either Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito would give him as much credit as beating Zab Judah in the long run, nothing desperately needed for legacy, only a Cotto fight or Mosley(if he didn't lose to Cotto) would give him major credit which is why I want that fight as well but if he decides to hang it for good then it's his choice as well and has done far more to desperately need any opponent.

 

PBF's sitting on the sideline weighing his options including, but not limited to, fighting Cotto in 2009.

Also pursuing the diversification model, seeking greater market penetration.

And the ducks can all go back to the pond - quack quack quack...

 

Floyd talks about how great he is, the best that ever did it, telling SRL that he would've beaten him, and claiming that he was even better than Ali and SRR, even though Ali would've never retired without fighting all the top guys to show that he was as great with his hands as he is with his mouth, UNLIKE FLOYD...and SRR had 200 fights, 20 losses, with over 50% by knockout (108 KOs), fighting 24 HOF FIGHTERS, and fighting many opponents 2 or more times to claim his supremacy (Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio, Bobo Olson, Randy Turpin), including Jack LaMotta, whom he fought 6 times, losing only once in those 6 fights (from 1942 - 1951) and knocking him out in their final bout...YET, as Floyd is called by Margarito, "Fraud Gayweather", with less than 40 fights (39 to be exact), claims to be better than SRR, who fought all comers (unlike Floyd, who turned down a fight contract for Margarito for a purse that would've been the highest of his career at the time, and turned down a fight with Cotto when asked by Larry Merchant if he would fight Cotto...Floyd said, "I have nothing left to prove"...as if he'd ever cleaned out a division and unified the titles to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was the absolute best in that division, let alone the very best in all of boxing). And Floyd, with only 39 fights, donning brittle hands, complains about how much pain his body is in, and says that his body is breaking down after less than 25% of the amount of professional fights as the great SRR that he claims to be better than.

If you train properly, your bones should get stronger from the rigorous pressures of training, if you do it properly. Bone thickens and becomes denser from constant pressurization and tempering (hitting the bag, knuckle push-ups, etc...skin toughens from layers of scarring and callous, which builds a 'rhino' layer over the knuckles to protect the hands, giving you the ability to punch harder without injuring your knuckles because of the hardened shell produced by hardcore training, and if you stretch and weight train properly, along with good nutrition and dietary habits and proper rest and recuperation periods, your muscles and tendons should become sturdier, firmer, stronger, and tougher as well. This is why martial artists can put their hands through 5 - 15 bricks and cinder blocks that outweigh them by 100 lbs or more, without injury, and with relative ease. Yet, Floyd, in his early 30's, is falling apart. He compares himself to a fighter in SRR who has 4 times more fights than he has, facing a much tougher pool of competiition, fighting more frequently, rematching the top fighters to prove his dominance, and all with less technologically advanced, developed and designed instruments, with old school exercise regimens, and fighting better opposition. So why is Floyd falling apart, when he has so many more technological advances in sciences, medicines and machinery to prepare for these fights, having lesser challengers, and fighting less frequently? How is he the G.O.A.T.?

So here's my appreciation to Floyd Mayweather, Jr.:

Dear Floyd,

I am a big fan of your skill and discipline in the gym to your craft. You have tremendous talent. There's not a mix of hand speed, punching accuracy, footwork, ring generalship and overall intelligence like yours in the entire sport today. I am not a Floyd hater, because watching you fight was a thing of beauty at times, but I DO hate a big mouth who doesn't back it up. My problem isn't HOW you fought, but WHO you fought - and who you DIDN'T fight. You were a waste of space and full of hot air because you didn't have the HEART needed to match your skill level, the HEART needed to excel and prove yourself against ALL COMERS like you said you would, in essence, making yourself out to be a liar ("I'll fight aaaany fighter from 154 on down. You bring'em and I'll beat'em"...yet, you didn't fight Margarito or Cotto. Or Williams. Or Clottey. 4 of the toughest guys in the division, and all tougher than anybody you've fought in the division so far).

Thanks for not cleaning out the divisions and unifying the titles. Thanks for fighting an old, retiring Oscar De La Hoya in the twilight moments of his career at a catch weight above the actual division you represent, and acting as if you proved something by facing him besides that you know how to latch onto big name fighters with diminishing skills for a big paycheck and bragging rights when you actually have no room, rhyme or reason to brag. Thanks for fighting him, a 34 year old DLH, whom you dissed, telling him that he made his name on legendary fighters (like Chavez and Whitaker) who were old and washed up (but they were 33 when Oscar fought them, and Oscar was 34 when you fought him, and he was fighting only once or twice per year, spending more time scouting fighters and signing them to his stable while running the promotional aspect of boxing instead of actually fighting...so what's your point again? Who's feasting on the old and washed up fighters here?). Thanks for fighting Ricky Hatton, the much smaller man from a lesser weight class that you outranked in height, reach, speed, strength, weight...the guy you called "one-dimensional" and a "midget", but yet you still saw fit to fight (oh wait, you were just leeching off his fame and notoriety and ability to draw big dollars...just like Oscar! My bad!)...a fighter you found worthy of fighting even though he'd already proven himself to be ill-equipped to fight as a welter against a much lesser fighter than yourself in Luis Collazo (ooh, another SAFE payday and notch on your belt, huh). Thanks for never proving you were the absolute best in any weight class above 130lbs by taking on all the top threats, for taking on mediocre competition for the sake of a belt so that you could say you were the champion of that division, then moving up in weight without sticking around to clean house...and thanks for not showing that you are the absolute best in all of boxing in recent years, as you've been given credit as being, but which can't actually be proven if you don't even show us that you're the absolute best in the WW division by taking on all the most dangerous fighters. That's like saying you're the baddest man in prison because you beat up on the 2nd best bad men, but you never take on the inmates who actually crack skulls for a 'lil extra fun while serving their life sentences, keeping the 2nd best guys in check. Your true value is shown against the very best FIGHTERS...not the best NAMES or PAYDAYS. If you say you're the very best, but you don't fight all the very best to prove it, then you haven't really proven anything. It's easy to look extraordinary against ordinary opposition.

You are one less black eye in boxing. You are one less fighter with a lofty assessment and opinion of himself who won't attempt to back it up against the toughest, most threatening and dangerous fighters to either prove the claims that come out of his mouth, or be disproved by defeat against the best competition. Boxing is better off without promoters and fighters who are anything like the character you've displayed.

Thanks, Floyd. Thanks for retiring. The world of boxing is a much better place without you. I hope you never come back.

 

Don't be afraid to be concise, it's not like you gonna lose your foreskin or something. :roll:

 

Why wait until 2009? Cotto may not even be in boxing next year! I've seen too many times where a fighter takes too many punches, in a single fight, and goes from an elite fighter to nearly being a vegetable. As the saying goes, 'get it while the getting is good', and, 'there's no time like the present'. I think he's waiting for Cotto to get a lil older and rustier and get beat up on by the likes of Williams, Margarito, Clottey, and maybe in rematches with Judah and Mosley. It's horrible when there's so much left to do in the division and the P4P guy runs off and retires after hyping himself as THE BEST so much, like he's proven everything when the division is still wide open and he won his lineal title rights from a journeyman who happened to catch the right fighter (Judah) at the right time to win. That's pathetic.

 

Because right now Cotto's marketability is not optimal. Plus it's not like either guy have no other option.

 

Floyd's "retirement" is one of the best thing to happen to this sport in a while.

Good riddance, and I will have more respect for him if he actually stays retired!

 

only way cotto maybe gets floyd into a ring at this point, is by seeing out his contract with bob arum and maybe giving mayweather promotions some options tied in with a floyd fight. :yep

only way i can see it happening. :roll:

 

You can't sit around waiting for somebody's marketability to become optimal! You don't even know if you'll have the 'later' that you're waiting for! Cotto could get blown away by somebody else in the meantime...then Cotto's '0' will be gone and Floyd's thunder will be stolen by another fighter!

Also, why is Floyd, who claims to be the best, the main attraction, and claiming that he is the sole reason why Oscar and Hatton made so much money, because they fought HIM...why is he waiting for somebody else to become more marketable? If he's so great, why does he need to depend on anyone else's marketability to make a fight financially worth taking? I'll tell you why: because Floyd alone can't fill many seats or sell many PPVs.

Floyd said that Oscar made his biggest payday fighting him, as well as Hatton. But Floyd's previous largest payday was $8mil. Oscar has been making $20-$30mil for YEARS...and Oscar reportedly made about $40mil + for his fight with Mayweather...that's about $10mil more than he'd made before. Meanwhile, Floyd made over $30mil for fighting Oscar, so that's a $22mil increase from his previous high payout, when before that, he couldn't even sell out his home town. Oscar could sell out virtually world-wide. Hatton was also already a beloved star with more than twice the fanbase of Floyd, so if anybody was helped by someone else's fame/name/notoriety, it was 'Money May' receiving the help. So what was Floyd's point?

Plain and simple, Floyd is just a leech, an opportunist who depends on other people's fame and notoriety to make a name (and paycheck) for himself instead of letting his skills (and a good personality) speak for him. We should be used to this, though...it's the same guy who'd fight the weakest champion in a division to lay claim to being a champion at that weight, then move up to the next division. And as far as I'm concerned, Zab Judah, the sporadic, inconsistent, glass-jawed big mouth, beating a feather-fisted, no chin having Cory Spinks, then losing to a journeyman in Carlos Baldomir...this is not a path of lineal supremacy. Floyd should not look at that with much pride. Instead, if he wants to really call himself the best, he needs to clean out the division and lay claim to all the belts, by fighting all the most dangerous guys at that weight, FOR ONCE.

If you claim to be the absolute very best, but you're not fighting all the very best to prove it, then you're not really making your point.

 

Me too, because every time he fights, it's a disgrace, because he's not fighting the best. Boxing is better off with Floyd staying retired. So is Floyd.