My thoughts on Vitali Klitschko

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Because the only way either brother can improve upon their legacy is by defeating legitimate ranked opponents.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rocky for 1 thing would use the crouch to go small, slipping punches on the way in (something Adamek can't do) to unload at his range. Rocky is far harder to hit and is far better at getting into range and landing meaningful punches. Are we forgetting Byrd managed to get past Prime Vitali's outside game to beat him up at mid range?

    Granted he maybe a bit small to pull it off, but Vitali has been caught roiding in the past, so for the sake of argument we can put Rocky on roids
     
  3. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I was very impressed and I don't think there's been a 40 year old heavyweight who is better than Vitali at 40. He is very inconsistent since his comeback, though:

    Peter: very impressive, even though Peter was in his worst shape ever, he destroyed mentally and physically

    Gomez: Vitali looked okay, Gomez may be better than given credit for and has the style to make an old man look bad. Bonus points for wiping the sweat off of Gomez' forehead during the press conference.

    Arreola: Many thought Vitali wouldn't be able to handle the pressure from a young, big hard hitting opponent. To my surprise, Klitschko fought a perfect fight and dominated Chris. Arguably Klitschko's career best performance.

    Johnson: Even though Johnson had no motivation to fight whatsoever, Klitschko looked pretty bad.

    Sosnowski: The Pole was in there longer than he should have. Again, Vitali's timing and reflexes seemed off, typical signs of aging. Looked bad again.

    Briggs: He dominated Briggs nicely, but somehow I had the impression that Shannon shouldn't have been on his feet after the barrage of punches he took.

    Adamek Here he fights a top4 contender and completely controls him and seems to be exactly as fast and well-timed as he was 10 years ago.

    Mind you, he still only lost a handful of rounds in all of those fights combined, but he does seem to be somewhat inconsistent.
     
  4. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Braddock, Patterson and Henry Cooper had no business at HW. Neither did Jerry Quarry. Yet they are mentioned as important wins to Louis, Liston, Ali. Today they and Marciano and so many others would be cruisers. Joe Louis only fought 17 opponents over 200 pounds in his career.
     
  5. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really, when did this happen? :patsch
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Byrd is an issue, I agree, however the h2h estimation depends largely on when the injury occurred. If it was between 4 and 5 then you couldn't say byrd did to well against a healthy vitali. If the injury occured during the final round then we could conclude he did well against a healthy vitali.

    Still if he could dominate haye i'd be much more convinced about his success vs elusive types.

    Was it a ped he was caught with? I don't believe it was, plus never as a pro.

    I only hold results against a fighter where they were caught or admitted to using a ped in a fight they won ( don't hold it against toney because it was a health treatment. Would hold it against shane had he won the rematch)
     
  7. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excuse me? Vitali was injured. Byrd wouldn't have won the fight without the injury. What story are you trying to sell here?
     
  8. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What happened to Vitali's leg in the 8th/9th? His timing was on last night, but his body only has 1 or 2 fights left guranteed.
     
  9. dm29

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    :):lol::rofl:rofl
     
  10. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At best it was expected that Adamek would take two or three rounds, by being able to get in and out.
    Be one of the few that could take a round from Vitillie, no one really expected Adamek to win.



    First thing that went wrong is Adamek found out Vittilie can hit in the first round, and that few inches more reach had a hammer on it.
    Vitiallie was getting off first, and controlling the distance.

    Both the brothers can move backwards very fast. Neither are there to be in a slug fest.
    Against speed one comes in at a lower weight, to be faster too.
    Everyone says the brothers are faster than expected. Once again some one fast is not as fast as expected.

    Vittilie did let Adamek survive a bit because last time vs Solis everyone was upset.

    I remember how some Brazilian who had never been down was taken as Wlad's first fight I think it was after Brewster, so he could get some rounds in. A perfect long hook to the temple KO'ed that guy in the first and Wlad had to apologize because the idiots booed.
    I remember Tyson having to do the same.

    I must admit I saw Vitillie missing a lot of punches, some he should not have missed. Everyone misses a punch here and there. Had he caught with a few of those punches it could have been over 2-3 rounds earlier.
     
  11. BlackWall

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    Peter: No he wasnt in his worst shape ever

    Gomez: He is underated, not for nothing he dominated the cruiser for 10 years! Vitali was not 100%!

    Arreola: Agree

    Johnson: Vitali won every single round. Its not so easy to look good, when the opponent is only in a defence mode!

    Sosnowski: Vitali gives not 100%. He plays with him

    Briggs: terrible job from his corner and the ref

    Adamek. Vitali plays with him
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Vitali has more or less performed to the level of his opponents imo. His best 3 post comeback opponents have been peter, arreola and adamek and he's been near punch perfect every time.

    Gomez caused him unforseen issues and he is certainly underrated but he by no means dominated the cruiser for a decade; he was number 1 for a couple of years.

    I'd favour vitali over haye and if he could surpass wlad's performance against david i'd be mega impressed.

    The gap is closing and if wlad's next two fights are against mormeck and fury whilst vitali dominates haye and povetkin, the gap will be gone.