My thoughts on Vitali Klitschko

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  1. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Watching the fight now, I think VK has not looked so good since LL . . . but I am kinda disappointed with Adamek. He had no real plan going into the fight. he did absolutely nothing to try and control the distance (where in the hell was his jab?) he had head movement but it was not effective more or less nervous energy. Also he created no angles, fought very flat footed (i think he fought this way because his lack of power . . . that I overrated) and i think he thought he needed to sit down on his punches more. Finally, I thought he should have circled away from VK right more. What I think the biggest issue was Adamek's Amazing lack of power. When someone cannot hurt you (even touching up the arms and shoulders) it is easier to walk right threw them.

    Since adamek was in no way shape or form a threat may have added to the performance of VK, but it was a solid performance none the less
     
  2. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, but I think Vitali's win looked so good because everyone knew Adamek is a very skilled fighter.

    Against Peter, Arreola, and the like, people could dismiss the wins as being against overrated bums. Against Adamek, you can't say that.

    A great performance against a very legit opponent.

    When you can shutout someone as fast and skilled as Adamek, at 40, you are not an impressive fighter by anyone's standards.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Adamek had success in round 4. Other than that, everything failed. His power was lacking and he couldn't dent the big man.

    What impressed me was vitali's upwards jab. Very quick and accurate, starts like a flick but lands like a power shot.

    It seemed like vitali completely negated adamek tonight and i'm not sure what else he could have done.

    If vitali can look as dominant against haye i'll be mega impressed.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Agreed :good
     
  5. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    It's good for Vitali because while most of us know what he is capable of he has always been held back by lack of top competition to demonstrate it against (Wlad gets the bigger fights because he's the champion). Now he has another good name on his resume. It doesn't matter that we know he was going to win. Eventually when both are retired their best wins will be used to rank them against the other ATGs. It's not worth so much to say 'Vitali would have beaten Adamek' rather than actually having that on his record

    One of the problems for the Klitschkos now is they have to divide their opponents. If only Vitali were fighting now he could have fought and beaten guys like Chagaev, Haye and Chambers. Likewise for Wladimir, if Vitali weren't around he could have wins over Adamek, Arreola, Gomez and Johnson. Instead they often have to fight guys like Rahman and Sosnowski because these fights aren't available
     
  6. Oddjob

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    If he beats Povetkin, it is sealed in my mind. He'll be a top 10 ATG HW.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    his win over Juan Carlos Gomez is way underrated
     
  8. Kampioni

    Kampioni Good Boy Full Member

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    Vitali is the ****ing man
     
  9. Schuden

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    Adamek had no idea how to come out on top. I've never seen him look so helpless. Vitali came down to a nice weight. He showed skill, strength and endurance. My guess, it would take the likes of big dangerous fighters like Lewis Bowe or Golota to handle him.
     
  10. Schuden

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    I had friends over for the fight and we were talking about this. I seriously doubt Ali would be able to do anything. It'd be ropey dopey then bedtime.
     
  11. Schuden

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    Eh, I'd probably watch it as I'm a heavy fan but what's the point when neither man can touch K2.
     
  12. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    6'2 216 pounds has no business at heavyweight? Thats pretty close to the same size as the guy in your avatar.
     
  13. JASPER

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    going into the fight I had him at number 3 with Haye and Povetkin at 4 and 5, Helenious a distance 6th, then everyone else even farther behind

    I overrated Adamek power so I would say he should have been 5th going into the fight. Any small man moving up has to have some pop to keep a bigger man off and also to try and pressure him. He was agile and busy enough to keep off the other sloths in the division. the worse part is there was absolutely no game plan, its like he was dropped in the ring and had to try and figure it out while in there. He should have been jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, circling to his right, using effective head movement to close the distance but even then he did not have enough pop to do anything. that would have been my strategy going in . . . but **** adamek makes byrd look like a KO Artist!

    right now I see the heavyweight division like this

    1/2 KBros both 25 ATGs
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    3/4/5 Haye, Povetkin, Adamek top 15-20 guys in almost any era
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    6 Helenious could be very very good (still a work in progress)
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    7 everyone else absolute ****ing shite . . . where are the solid vets? the hot prospects?

    its sad when punch drunk commander Evander could win a piece of the title.

    Once again it was a solid performance and it did raise VK up slightly in my mind. But outside of exposing adameks non-existent power in this division, it was also exposing how utterly shitty the heavyweights are today
     
  14. JASPER

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    ^^WOW, here we go . . . lol^^^

    please tell me you had a few to many tonight!
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I shared similar feelings. He was truly impressive against an over-matched but competent opponent.