My timeline of the premiere LHW in the world.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Born in london mate.

    Yeah you're right, me looking through lightheavy weight history is all purely agenda driven against one of england's most successful boxers. Never mind the fact i'm english and cheered him on that night, never mind that I initially scored it in his favour when drunk and euphoric he'd secured victory.

    I was trying to keep it secret but i'm also biased against tunney because I think he lost to greb in the rematch :lol:
     
  2. trampie

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    John McEnroe was born in Germany, he represented the USA.
    Joe Calzaghe represented Wales.

    Calzaghe won the fight and was therefore the #1 LHW
     
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    In your eyes the englishman was #1 lhw. In my eyes the englishman was #2.

    As I said, my take on things is what matters to me and after recently watching the fight I had hopkins winning, much to my dismay as I wanted my fellow countryman to do the deed.

    Incidently, i've not completed my smw history yet but I believe I have joe as the champ of that division from 01 (i'll post my results there in good time)
     
  4. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Calzaghe says he's Welsh and he is eligable to represent Wales then Joe Calzaghe is Welsh, if you think he is Sardinian or Italian or anything else is irrelevant, he is legally Welsh and regards himself as Welsh fighting under the flag of Wales in internationals.

    Calling Calzaghe English is just underlying you are putting your own spin on things to suit your own biased agenda.

    Welshman Joe Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins and in all sane peoples eyes was then the #1 LHW in the world, only people with an agenda would say Calzaghe is not Welsh and did not beat Hopkins [having outlanded him in every round of the fight winning 116-111 and 115-112 on the scoecards].

    You need to grow up if you hope to have any of your posts taken seriously.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Yeah i'm biased against the man I just said spent, Imo, 6 years as number 1 in his division. I'm biased against the man that i'm claiming as my fellow countryman.

    I have no interest in how seriously you take my posts.

    Come up with your own timeline based on your own research and then i'll listen to you.
     
  6. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My timeline is:- in April 2008, Joe Calzaghe became #1 LHW and retained that until he retired which was obviously sometime after his last fight, his last fight being November 2008.
     
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    I'm on about the divisions history. From 1903 - present day.
     
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    Ok so on my LHW journey I'm currently at the point where Loughran has just moved up to HW vacating the belts.

    Here is my quarry.

    Rosenbloom fought for the vacant belt and beat Slattery in a very close fight. Now up until his fight with Walker in '33 (you'll see later why I choose that point) he proceeded to lose 10 times all very close to the LHW limit. The idea that this man was the daddy of the division is ludicrous considering he was losing fights at 177 to legitimate LHW's.

    In the meantime, Mickey Walker goes on a tremendous run against LHW's beating McTigue, Berlenbach, Marullo, Lomski twice, Berlanger, Adgie, Manley losing only a close decision to Loughran (then champ).

    Whilst Rosenbloom might have slightly more victories, the slattery scalp is pretty damn good, his losses at 177, 176 etc make a ridicule of his claim as 175 champ and infact he was even stripped of a belt.

    Now in 33 Rosenbloom did beat Walker.

    Is it fair to say that between the years 1930 and 1933 Walker was the best LHW in the world? After all, Schmelling was the only man who could truly better him during this period.

    The years shortly after Rosenbloom are a complete mess but I'll get to them shortly.

    Does anyone have any good reason not to rank Walker above Rosenbloom during this timeframe?
     
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    My thinking here is

    Walker: 1929-1933
    Rosenbloom: 1933-1934
    Godwin: 1934
    Olin: 1934-1935
    Lewis: 1935 - vacates his belt.