My timeline of the premiere SFLW in the world.

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  1. lufcrazy

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    Rafael Orono: (february)1980-(january)1981 [loses to kim]
    Chul Ho Kim: (january)1981-(november)1982 [loses to orono]
    Rafael Orono: (november)1982-(november)1983 [loses to poontarat]
    Payao Poontarat: (november)1983-(july)1984 [loses to jiro watanabe]
    Jiro Watanabe: (july)1984-(march)1986 [loses to roman]
    Gilberto Roman: (march)1986-(february)1987 [loses claim when galaxy beats pical]

    Khaosai Galaxy: (february)1987-(july)1992 [retires claim whilst moon beats salazar]

    Sung-Kil Moon: (july)1992-(november)1993 [loses to bueno]
    Jose Bueno: (novembeR)1993-(may)1994 [loses to kawashima]
    Hiroshi Kawashima: (may)1994-(february)1997 [loses to penalosa]
    Gerry Penalosa: (february)1997-(july)1997 [loses claim when tapia beats romero]

    Johnny Tapia: (july)1997-(april)1999 [vacates claim whilst johnson beats singwancha]

    Mark Johnson: (april)1999-(january)2000 [vacates claim whilst choo beats penalosa]

    In-Joo Choo: (january)2000-(august)2000 [loses to tokuyama]
    Masamori Tokuyama: (august)2000-(june)2004 [loses to kawashima]
    Katsushige Kawashima: (june)2004-(july)2005 [loses to tokuyama]
    Masamori: Tokuyama: (july)2005-(july)2006 [retires claim whilst nashiro beats castillo]

    Nubuo Nashiro: (july)2006-(january)2007 [loses claim when mijares beats kawashima]

    Christian Mijares: (january)2007-(november)2008 [loses to darchinyan]
    Vic Darchinyan: (november)2008-(may)2010 [vacates claim whilst narvaez beats briceno]

    Omar Narvaez: (may)2010-Present [premiere super flyweight in the world]
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    This is my preliminary timeline for the super flyweight division. Not 100% convinced with my timeline here, martin castillo deserves a mention I think but I can't seem to fit him in.
     
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  3. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I don't think beating a mediocre fighter like Pical should take Galaxy over Roman.Gilberto was fighting excellent men like Laciar at this point.

    I know Laciar had moved up in weight, but he was a tank and showed in his superfly fights he was similarly capable overall there.Pical on the other hand was a typical 80s IBF marginal champ who managed to struggle and get beat even against the cans he was defending against.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

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    that was one of my concerns; maybe I put too much stock in the fact it was for all intents and purposes a unification fight.

    When would you suggest galaxy becomes top man? I know ring had him there in 89.
     
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  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I'm not sure that he ever did.Roman vs Laciar duel then Konadu and Moon....
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I suspect a fifty fifty like this will split people so i'm not overly surprised by your response there.

    Maybe I was looking for an excuse to put him in with being a hof fighter. I have looked into his individual career before and those factors combined with a top ring ranking for the late 80's early 90's probably led to me looking at a sensible point to put him top and the wba - ibf unification seemed to be that point.

    That division actually has quite a clear unbroken lineage for a good number of years but i'm happy having galaxy as top dog for a few years. It's worth considering though.:?
     
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  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Galaxy is one of those select few asian champs that ended up being oddly overrated by western boxing publications(and many of the so called self-titled "historians" that had a voice in the media or boxing circles)for years.

    That's not to say he wasn't one of the top fighters in the division, but he never proved himself the best and had a lesser claim to it than others at the time who were involved in tougher fights.
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Orono-Poonterat could go either way.

    Poonterat beat Watanabe the first time.

    Khaosai was never the no.1 in the division.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    I've never seen the poon - wat fight so took the result at face value. Is it readily available to watch or is it a rare fight?

    As I said above about galaxy, I think it's fifty fifty and he has a decent claim.
     
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  10. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Both Poonterat watanabe bouts are up on youtube.Most of his title fights are now.

    I was going to upload a few starting with the Oguma bout, but they were all there already.Too sluggish yet again.
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    You deffo' got the Zapata-Vorasingh bout or you getting mixed up mate? Have never seen it listed anywhere and would be overjoyed if there was any footage of Shorty knocking about :D
     
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  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I'm sure i have it.It's a one-sided slaughter and one of zapata's very best performances if i mind rightly.That said this was back when i originally got loads of zapata fights, over ten years ago.I haven't went through most of that stuff since.The only time i've really watched zapata in recent years is re-watching the bassa fights when they went up on youtube.
     
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  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, get it uploaded you lazy *******.
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    Zapata slaughtering a 4'11 Thai?! Still sounds great.

    But Berkrek-Villacampo is the main one ;-) Merry Xmas Gentlemen :hi:
     
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  15. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I found all of Mashashi Kudo's title defences a few weeks ago.You sure you don't want to see those instead?;)
     
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