My top 10 featherweights of all time

Salvidar lost to Jofre after his 2nd or 3rd comeback did he? Surely would have been well past it.

 

He was past it, but not moreso than Jofre.

 

Yeah thats what I meant actually, though it sorta didnt read like that...Vicente had already retired a couple of times I thought, maybe as many as 3.

Edit..Actually I didnt mean that...I was trying to say I thought Salvidar was very ring rusty in addition to probably being past it..which I personally dont know how far he had dipped.

 

Chalky Wright couldnt get past Pep [ not many could], but he was a seriously deadly puncher a very dangerous featherweight.

And more importantly, a very good shag ,according to Mae West.

 

I was wondering if he would even get a mention here !

 

Battling Battalino also beat
Al Singer
Bushy Graham
Freddie Miller
Fidel Labarba
Bud Taylor
Andre Routis
Panama Al Brown

Not a good enough resume?

ps. Battalino was on Chocolate's chest all night ,similar to Frazier v Ali 1
Watch it and tell me it's a robbery

 

:rofl:rofl

 

I disagree. Yes, Jofre was an aging fighter, on the comeback trail and at a higher weight, so there's evidence to suggest he wasn't the Jofre of old. But it's also obvious given his return record that he was still an excellent fighter, in fact you could say the move up to Featherweight rejuvenated him, as the main cause for his retirement in the first place was because of the severe issues he had making the Bantam limit. The weight-draining difficulties had already started to come into play by the Harada fights, actually.

Saldivar, on the other hand, hadn't fought in over 2 years prior to the Jofre bout, and had already been on the decline by then. Jofre, to the contrary, picked up wins over such capable Featherweights as Jose Legra, Frankie Crawford, Godfrey Stevens, Octavio Gomez, and Juan Antonio Lopez before and after finishing the used up Saldivar.

 

He also beat solid contenders in Frankie Crawford, Baby Luis, Eloy Sanchez, Eduardo Guerrero, and Dwight Hawkins.

 

About Driscoll and Attell:

The story was that the rounds Driscoll won, which reading from the varying reports should be about 7, were done so undisputedly. Attell had to dig deep to receive the credits in close rounds.

Furthermore at the end the injuries sustained were along the lines of a closed eye, bloody nose and split lip. Driscoll was unmarked.

It was most certainly a dominant performance.

 

1. Willie Pep
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Eusubio Pedroza *
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Vicente Saldivar
8. George Dixon
9. Terry McGovern
10. Baby Arizmendi

* Suzie Q's assessment of Pedroza is harsh to say the least. Pedroza may not have looked good against Taylor, but it's not the BT Express landed anything of worth against him, either throughout the course of those 15 rounds. Pedroza was also starting to slide a bit at that point but still did enough to earn the draw in his rival's backyard.

Besides, he looked fantastic against an equally slick Patrick Ford who had given Sanchez all he could handle only a few months earlier. Sanchez might beat Pedroza (although I think the Panamanian takes at least one out of three), but he certainly wouldn't have smoked him had the two met in their primes.

*Yeah, I have Dixon ahead of MacGovern. This is based on the fact that while Terry smoked him for the title, Little Chocolate was well past his best by that point (and still held the edge through the first six rounds of the fight). Dixon reigned longer, and did more and better work at the weight, so that's why he's ahead.

*The 10th and final slot could have been given to any number of fighters, like Miller, Dundee, Driscoll, Wright, Sarron, Nelson, Kilbane, et al. But Arizmendi, while only a partial champion, did a hell of a lot of good work at the weight, and going 2-1 against Armstrong at featherweight seals the deal for his inclusion.

 

Never thought Sweet Pea would a smoker :rofl

One SuzieQ, you are clearly being petty when you say Pedroza 'lost to the only decent guy he faced in Zamora'. That was at Bantam I believe? In no way a definitive argument against someone placing high in a FW list, especially as Pedroza proved his durability later on.

I wouldn't put Pedroza in myself, but he's not far off the top. And I do think his intelligent, ahem, trickiness would hassle Pep. Pedroza was strong and tough, and would not allow Pep's bursts of attack and clever angles to put him off. He would maul the smaller guy to a decision IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO

Thought that I would stres that it is just my opinion, and I would pretty much favour Pep over ANY FW in history (except Arguello, I don't like his chances at avoiding getting hit the whole fight from arguably the division's hardest ever puncher)


































No love for Naz??? :rofl