My top 10 Heavyweights in the World

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Jun 19, 2009.


  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,088
    3,779
    Sep 14, 2005
    Since our First REAL Linear Heavyweight Champion is about to be announced tomorrow night since 2003, I thought I would devote today to heavyweights. I would gather the insight from you fine people, rather than the general forum.​

    So pretending I am Ring Magazine....Here is my top 10 heavyweights in the world as of June 19 2009 ​


    1. Wladimir Klitschko(IBF,WBO)
    2. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
    3. Ruslan Chagaev(WBA)
    4. David Haye
    5. Alexander Potvekin
    6. Nicolay Valuev
    7. Chris Arreola
    8. Alexander Dimitrenko
    9. Eddie Chambers
    10. Samuel Peter​


    Wladimir: ​

    Strengths: Jab, Two fisted Power, Boxing Skills, Clinching, handspeed, Timing, Defense...One of the best all around superheavyweights of all time. Has cleaned out the division the past 4 years. ​

    Weaknesses- Panic Attacks, Chin, Lethargic lately ​

    My prediction: He beats Chagaev and becomes the New Linear Champion and goes on to establish himself quite the all time legacy in the next 3 years ​


    Vitali:

    Strengths: Size, Durability, Strength, Knows how to use his physical tools, good attrition puncher, Solid workrate, Has not been behind on cards​

    Weaknesses: Age, Low tolerance for pain, weak resume, Poor timing, average speed, paws with jab ​

    My prediction: Age catches up with everyone...Vitali faces a live young contender and loses his belt in within his next 2 title defenses and retires for good. But it will take one of the very best young contenders to beat him for anyone else I would favor Vitali over...If Vitali decides to fight his brother in a super pay per view fight, vitali loses badly. ​


    Ruslan Chagaev:

    Strengths: Very Solid Skills and Fundamentals, Strength, Durability, Cleverness, Power, Undefeated WBA champion. ​

    Weaknesses: Injuries, Speed, Height, has not looked in prime form lately. ​

    My Predication: Chagaev loses to wlad in a competitive fight...then continues to be a live contender for the next 3-4 years but never wins the title again. ​


    David Haye:

    Strengths: Two Fisted Punching Power, Handspeed, Skills, Youthness, Brings potential life to the heavyweight Division we havnt seen in years. ​

    Weaknesses: Durability, Big Mouth ​

    My predication: He gets a major title fight with Wlad sometime down the line and wlad survives a huge scare to win a classic battle. Haye continues to become a top dog heavyweight contender next 3-4 years and picks up a Alphabet belt down the line. If he fights Old Vitali before fighting Wlad, I think he is the live underdog to win. ​


    Alexander Potvekin: ​

    Strengths: Boxing Skills, Defense, Cleverness, Handspeed, upperbody movement...Undefeated Young Contender ​

    Weakness: Power, Footwork, Ring Experience​

    My Prediction: Potvekin is the man to dethrone Old Vitali within the next 1-2 years. This sets up a mega unification with Wlad. Potvekin will sustain himself a solid legacy by the time he retires. ​



    Nicolay Valuev:

    Strengths: Superhuman Size, Reach, Jab, Improved Skills, Durability, Experience​

    Weakneses: Speed, Power, Mobility, Defense ​

    My prediction: Valuev loses his belt in the following year to any one of the 5 fighters I rank ahead of him...who ever he faces first. He keeps on fighting competitivley but never picks up a major belt again. ​


    Chris Arreola

    Strengths: Heavy Bludgening Power, Punching Skills, Aggresiveness, Defense, Jab....Undefeated Young Contender​

    Weakneses: Overweight and Out of Shape, speed​


    My Prediction: Chris Arreola is the most underrated heavyweight out there today because he is a fat sack of ****. If this man loses a little bit of weight, watch out because hes a terror.....The man has some serious skills to go along with the frightening power. He is not a sam peter fraud. I strongly believe he picks up a belt in the next 3 years and could be the man to upset Wladimir Klitschko. I love Arreola. Lets see what kind of committment Arreola has to the sport. ​


    Alexander Dimitrenko: ​

    Strengths: Very Solid Fundamentals, Size, body attack, Attrition punching, Footwork...Undefeated Young contender ​

    Weaknesses: Handspeed, upperbody movement, lack of one punch power ​

    My Prediction: He decisions Fast Eddie in a close decision, but Eddie troubles him greatly with his quicker hands...If Vitali or Valuev is still champion within 2 years, I expect an improving Dimitrenko to defeat Old Vitali and Valuev Dimitrenko has a solid career ahead of him, but he does not match up well with Wlad. ​


    Fast Eddie Chambers

    Strengths: Fast Handspeed, Skills, Footwork, Accuracy, Youthness, Never ducks anyone.​

    Weaknesses: Weight Problems, Lack of Power, Strength ​

    My predication: If Eddie gets his weight under control...Watchout. He has already been taking on the best contenders in the division and doing quite well...I think he has potential to pick up a belt or give certain champions big problems with his Speed. Eddie isnt afraid to take on anyone! I love that! ​


    Sam Peter:

    Strengths: Brute Power, Strength, Aggresivness, Willing to take on anybody ​

    Weaknesses: Skills, Defense, Speed, Stamina, Overweight​

    My predication: Peter has hit rock bottom right now. He runs risk of burning out and he cant keep himself in shape ..He is still young but he has room to comeback. I have always thought he was overrated and his recent performances/losses further my point. I think Peter is going to drift off into obscurity and gather more losses and have the occasional upset...but he will no longer be champion. These new breed of young hotshots(arreola, chambers, dimitrenko, haye, potvekin) are all better than him. ​
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    57
    Oct 15, 2007
    Thanks for adding this to the forum SQ, mus have took some thoughts this.

    By the way, Vitali is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,088
    3,779
    Sep 14, 2005
  4. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    57
    Oct 15, 2007
    Haha, funny first line on Arreola.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,088
    3,779
    Sep 14, 2005
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    52,220
    27,724
    Jan 3, 2007
    This is a reasonable list.
     
  7. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    Good list overall, your top 5 is the same as mine :good

    The only issue I have is with Valuev. Holyfield is a walking corpse and was robbed against Nicolay, he should be lower imo.

    But that's a pretty minor issue, good job.
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,088
    3,779
    Sep 14, 2005
    I'd hope to think so! LOL

    Good Retort MuchMoore. I was very tempted NOT to put Valuev any higher than 10th, but because of his good record, and recent improvement in skill(although he sucked vs holyfield), and the fact he was/is WBA champion... I gave him some slack based on accomplishments.....but on ability i think dimitrenko, chambers, arreola rate better but they just hadvnt proved themselves yet...give them one more year and they will move right over Valuev.

    I understand valuev really screwd his legacy vs Shot 47 year old holyfield, but I though Nicolay was very impressive in his shutout decision over former WBO heavyweght champion Sergie Liahkovic.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    66,205
    53,656
    Feb 11, 2005
    Solid analysis. Now, if these guys paired off and fought each other often we could have a good division.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    114,823
    51,910
    Mar 21, 2007
    I think that Fast Eddie's biggest weakness is his lack of concentration over the long haul. Reminds me of Dawson a bit in that. They both seem to...lose intensity during a tough match
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,088
    3,779
    Sep 14, 2005
    Good Point Mcgrain, you can argue thats what cost him the potvekin match down the stretch. Also Fast Eddie defintley let up on Sam Peter, if he let loose his hands more, the decision would have been wider.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

    19,404
    279
    Oct 4, 2005
    Excellent list! I'm not sure if Haye can do what you predict, but he's a good bet to pick up a title somewhere. We'll see about Wlad and Ruslan tomorrow...... i'm guessing a Wlad UD.

    Indeed Chambers has a lot of skill and handspeed, but lacks footspeed (fat) and stamina (double fatty). If he'd lose 10-20lbs, he'd be a serious player, but as of now, i think he'll come up short against half of the top guys because he can't sustain his action for the last 6 rounds of a fight. Dimitrenko will probably decision him in a close fight.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,796
    2,396
    Aug 26, 2004

    LOL Double fatty .....Chambers is a double ass fatty and Peter is a triple ass fatty....LMAO....I got to remember that (double fatty) but its true ...we should do a post on this...James Toney ...now that a double ass crack fatty
     
  14. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,670
    99
    Feb 18, 2006
    Very interesting read, SuzieQ.

    I agree with you that Peter and Valuev are probably on their way out as serious forces in the division.

    One thing I might disagree with. I wonder about Wlad. He is 33 and at that age quite a few fighters start hitting the age wall. He hasn't looked that good in his last few fights. The Chagaev fight might be a real test.
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    98,716
    30,652
    Jun 2, 2006
    Very solid list with decent appraisals .