My top 10 Heavyweights

1. Ali
2. Tyson
3. Louis
4. Holmes
5. Liston
6. Marciano
7. Lewis
8. Foreman
9. Dempsey
10. Johnson

7-10 change in order a lot.

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Dempsey
4. Foreman
5. Holmes
6. Marciano
7. Holyfield
8. Johnson
9. Liston
10. Frazier
11. Tyson
12. Jeffries
13. Lewis
14. Walcott
15. Charles
16. Bowe
17. Tunney
18. Schmeling
19. Corbett
20. Baer

 

LOL.....

Thanks for the compliment mate...

In the future, you should cover yourself better when using public restrooms..

 

Reasoning for having Holmes so low, and Frazier and Tunney so high?

 

It's all a matter of opinion Bill... Everyone has a different list. There's no reason to get excited about it.

 

Hey, if she wants to lather me with honey who was i to decline. No better cover than that

 

I'm not, I just want to know why he chose to put them ahead of him.

 

He probably rates them higher i'd say. He's already told you he doesn't think much of Larry and his reign.

 

I am pretty fixed on my top 4 but the rest can change depended on the films and focus that are fresh in my mind, I do think highly of Tunney because of his two wins over Dempsey, the long count getting up and dropping Jack but Tunney had speed of hand and foot up there with Ali, and Dempsey was still dangerous,also Tunney got out when on top and stayed out.( I heard a lot of story's about Tunney from my grandfather when I was a kid and Tunney was a master boxer and a tough guy and a classy boxer) As far as Frazier I rate him on the night of Ali one and mostly everything leading up to that night, he was never the same after the fame but on that night he beat Ali decisively, so if I rate Ali so high I got to give Frazier some props(on that night he could have fought anyone) Holmes,Tyson,Holyfield,Lewis....I got to sort that out, its a matter of weighing out the strength and weaknesses, I thought I gave Larry a high rating and Walcott also but on the night he fought Louis and the night he fought Marciano, he could have upset anyone or almost upset anyone. Walcott was eratic, hot and cold but on a good night he was a master, and he could crack with either hand

 

IMO you shouldn't rate by 1 night. That would ranking Tyson only up to his win over Spinks, or Holmes only up to his win over Cooney. I understand your reasoning with rating Frazier high because of that night he beat Ali, but what about the other 3? Manila was a huge legacy fight.

 

You know damn well what I meant. Its pretty obvious you don't like me, and you just feel like being a *****.

 

I've been asked by a fine member of the forum to go easy on you due to your age and fanboy upbringing so i'll leave it at that

:good

 

Who was this fine member? Forget about the age too.

 

Ali
Louis
Marciano
Liston
Tyson
Johnson
Foreman
Lewis
Holyfield
Frazier

(Holmes would be next)

 

They were all good close fights and Ali walked out of those fights in slightly higher standing than Frazier but Frazier was not the same guy as Ali 1. I do consider Frazier vs Bonavena,Quarry,Ellis,Ramos,Mathis,Machen prior to Ali 1. Tyson was on his way but his mental weakness and the wrong influence derailed him and he dropped from what he could have been to what he became (never got off the floor to win and kind of quit when the going got rough) You know how I feel about Holmes not fighting the best of his era. again I thought highly of Frazier before the Ali fight but he cemented himself as a real good fighter the night of Ali 1, Frazier got sudden fame during the build up and after the win, he was partying with broads, music and everything else and was never the same but that night in the Garden he was in his prime and he beat a prime Ali. As far as Louis, Marciano the both got off the floor to win, fought the best of there time. Ali is top 4 because of him fighting the best of his era's and handling his business. I might be rating Frazier too high but do I move Foreman up to 5, its hard because a young version was beatable, great power but beatable(lacking stamina) many of the top 10 guys could have beaten the young Foreman, the older version was smarter and paced himself but Prime versions of the top 10 could have beaten him too