my top 10 lightweights of all time

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  1. SuzieQ49

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    h2h/all around accomplishments/historical signifigance/intangibles

    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Ike Williams
    3. Joe Gans
    4. Pernell Whitaker
    5. Henry Armstrong
    6. Benny Leonard
    7. Carlos Ortiz
    8. Tony Canzoneri
    9. Julio Cesar Chavez
    10. Jack Blackburn
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    Leonard that low, and Mayweather that high is unacceptable. Mayweather had about 4 fights there, two of which were struggles against Castillo, one of which he arguably lost. How is that all time top 10 material? Not even close, someone like Rosario deserves to rank above Floyd. Even in a head to head sense, Floyd didn't prove **** other than that he'd struggle with a fighter like Castillo. How does Floyd outrank Chavez, who also had very little fights, but had a better win in Rosario than any of Floyd's?
     
  3. brownpimp88

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    I would put argeullo on that list, his wins over Jim Watt and Ray Manicini were wicked.
     
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    I rank Arguello top 2 at 130lb of all time alongside kid chocolate. perhaps your right about 135lb though
     
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    Then henry armstrong who went 1-1 at 135lb shouldnt be in my top 10 either?
     
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    Yeah man, the guy absolutely pasted Ray Manicini and Jim Watt is a very good win to have.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    Is there a particular reason you're giving out completely false info? I was under the impression that he had quite a few more, even if you're getting into technicalities about fighter's weights during the fights. Check your facts again.
     
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    He fought 2 world lightweight title bouts vs lou ambers going 1-1, floyd fought 2 with castillo. whats the difference? floyd beat the two best lightweights of his era castillo and corrales. Corrales fight may have been 130lb but he was officially 146lb on fightnight so i dont think theres that much of a difference. my biggest criteria is h2h, and floyd rates high here. edwin rosario was a dangerous puncher, but hes not in the class of floyd mayweather.
     
  9. Dempsey1238

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    Ross is 2-0 against your number 8.
     
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    You said LW fights, not title fights. Armstrong also beat Arizmendi at LW, and other good fighters around the weight. I rate Ambers ahead of Castillo as well.
     
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    Another glaring omission from his list.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    Tunney is 2-0 against dempsey. does that make him better heavyweight?
     
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    It would if Tunney accomplished more there, which is the case with a guy like Ross. Get your facts straight, Ross was just as good as Canzi, beat him twice at his best weight, and had other top wins at or around the weight. Hell, a guy like Floyd shouldn't outrank a guy like Billy Petrolle even, by any means.
     
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    Tony Canzoneri's body of work at 135lb over TWO DIFFERENT eras is far greater than ross work at 135lb. Canzoneri beat the much better competition at 135lb by a wide margin. I also think h2h canzoneri matches up better at his best than ross does. Also the newspaper reported the 2nd fight to be a very controversial decision that many believed canzoneri won
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    you know your little pernell whitaker signature is cute in all, but its unrealistic as is pernell whitaker. he must have been all yipped out when he made that statement, as are you if with your continue underating of mayweathers abilities.