my top 10 lightweights of all time

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, May 24, 2008.


Page 6 of 6
  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,740
    Sep 14, 2005
    I thought Mosely beat oscar the first time, it was close but clear for shane. The first real loss I thought oscar obtained. However, Oscar clearly won the 2nd mosely fight, oscar clearly won 7 out of the 12 rounds. horrible decision. at worst a draw. I dont see how anyone could score the 2nd fight for shane.
     
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    #76
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,740
    Sep 14, 2005
    Notice how I said the 1990s? you brought up sturm hopkins and mayweather for some reason. these fights taken place in the new milenium when he was older slower and fatter(in sturms case).


    Oscar was the best pure boxer of the 1990s. That means he had the best pure textbook boxing skills, doesnt necessarily mean he is the most dominant boxer on the cards, but that he has the most fundamentaly sound skills out of the fighters. His high gaurd, straight punches, jab, fluid combinations, footwork make him what he is.
     
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    #77
  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,973
    2,419
    Jul 11, 2005
    When would that be? Maybe after their last meeting, when the press wrote:

    If Jack Blackburn is the most formidable opponent left in the ring for Joe Gans, the clever Baltimore lightweight can hold his title indefinitely.
     
    Senya13, May 26, 2008
    Senya13, May 26, 2008
    #78
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    37,077
    3,740
    Sep 14, 2005
    "It has only taken one short season to prove that it is Jack Blackburn's extreme cleverness and ability to hit a knock-out blow with one punch that has caused nearly all the lightweights of the country to avoid meeting him in the ring, says the Philadelphia Ledger. He has driven Joe Gans to the woods, and Eddie Hanlon, Young Corbett, Jimmy Britt, Willie Fitzgerald, Battling Nelson..have practically confessed they do not want any of his game. -Milwaukee Evening Wisconsin. April 29, 1905



    while gans did give blackburn a 6 round non title bout, he never gave blackburn the inspiring 15 round title match he has the # 1 contender craved for. There is a big difference between a 6 round non title bout and a 15 rounder for the championship. Blackburn was by far the best lightweight in the division besides gans and called him out on more than one occasion.


    "It would not be hard to make a champion out of Blackburn, but it is going to be a tough job to give Jack a chance to show that he is a champion. Blackburn is the Jack Johnson of the lightweight class. The only difference between Blackburn and Johnson is that the former is really a greater fighter and boxer while the later is supposed to be"-Hotspur McBride. Police Gazette. February 1907​
     
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    SuzieQ49, May 26, 2008
    #79
  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,973
    2,419
    Jul 11, 2005
    Blackburn was given a chance at 15-round fight in March 1904. He failed, even though he was 10-15 pounds heavier than Gans. 1905 bouts, where I saw his weight, he was usually between 140 and 150 pounds. We really don't know how he'd do if he were forced to come in at lightweight limit at the time.

    A little over a month later after the Milwaukee newspaper you quoted, Blackburn looked very tame and arguably lost against Cole. Although he stopped Jack Williams in next bout, but then had the worst of it against an out of shape Langford. Several draws followed, and in general Blackburn was inconsistent.

    In that 6-round bout Gans was clearly Blackburn's superior, it was Blackburn who was clearly tired at the end and holding and not fighting during the last two minutes. Gans was cool and fresh. There was nothing to suggest that Blackburn would do better had it been scheduled for 15 rounds, and especially had he been forced to make lightweight limit.
     
    Senya13, May 26, 2008
    Senya13, May 26, 2008
    #80
Page 6 of 6