My top 10 middleweights.

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Harry Greb
    2. Charley Burley
    3. Carlos Monzon
    4. Ray Robinson
    5. Marvin Hagler
    6. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Mike McCallum
    8. James Toney
    9. **** Tiger 9b. Tiger Flowers
    10. Mickey Walker

    Basically a H2H list for me...Greb now resides as my numero uno based on his incredible resume. (That is a change for me...I formerly ranked SRR and Monzon above him...not anymore).

    Wildcards who fought at higher weights capable of beating anyone on my list: Jones Jr. Sam Langford, and Bob Fitzsimmons. If I were to rate Jones Jr H2H at middleweight...right up there behind Greb, and possibly Burley.
     
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  2. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    no freddie steele ?
     
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  3. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great fighter for sure...but not my top 10. My list may have some gaps...but my opinion. Cheers.

    Where would you place Steele?:think
     
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  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    No Henry Hank ?
     
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  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not top ten...but he would RUMBLE with anybody on the list!
     
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  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I would put Hagler over Robinson at middleweight.
     
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  7. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    dunno....but i'd have steele...holman williams....ketchel..fitz..somewhere in middle section of mine i'd imagine.....maybe cerdan too..

    could probably make 10 different top 10's :)
     
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  8. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup. Middleweights are crazy deep...and always different styles play a huge part.
     
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  9. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    btw...not dissing your list...its your top ten, so if its right for you then its right for you :good
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Your list. But the top two, how many rounds in total are available of them on film? Head to head list but you've hardly seen anything of your top two?

    Given the names, I think you can make the case. But I believe you are stretching it with 9b. There's nothing to indicate he's one of the very best boxer who has ever lived, really. He was definitely very very good.
     
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  11. Unforgiven

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    Didn't he beat Greb ?
     
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  12. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    did he beat greb ?...not disputing or offering my opinion....but thats a thread in itself :)

    and...in fairness...greb was on his last legs.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Sure, he beat Greb 2/3.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Steele is number 4 at least. He beat 8 former or future champs. He had a 60+ fight winning streak. The wheels didn't fall off for him until he he was injured versus Apostoli (who he had previously beaten) and his manager died... and when he had 120 fights under his belt. He was lightning quick, possessed great footwork and devastating power.
     
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  15. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All lists in this forum are flawed and utterly meaningless, even mine, the very idea someone can come up with a CORRECT list is simply ridiculous... it is not beyond the realms of possibility any top 10 list could find another 10 guys who would dismantle the first ten in the ring.
     
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