my top 10 p4p punchers ever

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by brickfists, Jan 20, 2009.


  1. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,911
    1
    Apr 19, 2008
    I don't think there is much difference between their p4p punching power. Should it be taken into account the physical sizes of both fighters in their respective divisions? Hearns was of course a massive WW and you would expect some advantages against the WW division power wise.

    Naz on the other hand was small for a featherweight yet still had the one punch power to KTFO of most his larger opponents.

    If these factors matter when deciding who was the bigger p4p puncher then i could see why Naz could be above Hearns.

    But obviously No.2 is too high for Naz
     
  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I agree on Arguello though, my favourite puncher of all-time too, the KO of Kevin Rooney is frightening!!
     
  3. stonerose

    stonerose Guest


    How highly would you rate Mclellan as a hard hitter mate ?
     
  4. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    When I'm deciding on punching power, I make my decision on punching power. It doesn't matter if someone is tall for their weight division or short, IMO Hearns hit harder at his weight division than Naz did at his, thus Hearns should be above Naz in p4p punching stakes IMO.
     
  5. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Sensational. Not quite as evil as Julian Jackson, but the next tier down sort of thing. He does merit inclusion in this discussion IMO, but I think he would fall short of a top 10. I ****ing adore a brutal bodypuncher though, don't you??
     
  6. stonerose

    stonerose Guest


    ****ing right i do . It's an art form.
    Maybe a list of best bodypunchers is in order ?
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,467
    Sep 7, 2008
    I think G-Man was a hard hitter, a mix of speed and brute force that you don't see very often. He had very damaging punches that would make opponents not want to get up.

    But Nigel Benn had more one-punch K.O power, but I think part of that is because his hooks and uppercuts were so unexpcted....thrown when he looked like he was about to go down :hi: is what would then happen to the opponents.

    G-Man was more of a boxer-puncher who could turn it on when he needed too, or when he wanted too (see the 2nd Jackson fight) whereas Benn was more of a puncher in the sense that in a lot of his fights he would've been down and out without his ability to punch.

    I wouldn't know quite where to rank them in accordance with each other, but I'd probably have Gerald just above Benn in my top 20 (smewhere towards the 15-20 mark for both)
     
  8. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

    18,550
    5
    Jun 10, 2007
    Earnie Shavers has to be on any list of punchers.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,800
    11,425
    Aug 22, 2004
    .............Interesting list, but I'd swap out Gomez for Foster or Shavers. Gomez was more of an accumulation puncher who wore fighters down with consistency and accuracy. His one-punch power wasn't as good as this list would make one think.
     
  10. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,060
    1
    Sep 3, 2008
    No love for Tzsyu? I think he creeps into a top ten list
     
  11. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,506
    1
    Feb 8, 2008
    Now this issue then leaves me confused, this whole p4p thing.

    When considering p4p fighters can move from 154 to 160 easily, or 160 - 168 easily. I get confused because they can merge so easily.

    An example i would choose to demonstrate this is julian jackson, at almost 6" he was a big 154 and average 160. Had KO power in both divisions.

    So when comparing him to mcclellan and benn who were at 160 - 168 should we consider all 3 equal or say jackson was in the lower weight div and so that should be a factor.???

    someone please help explain!!
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,032
    48,148
    Mar 21, 2007
    Ok, here's a top 25 composite punchers list, so that's taking everything into account possible in terms of the punch:

    01 - Joe Louis
    02 - Sam Langford
    03 - Mike Tyson

    04 - Archie Moore
    05 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    06 - Alexis Arguello
    07 - Bob Fitzsimmons
    08 - Bob Foster
    09 - Thomas Hearns
    10 - Ike Williams
    11 - Sonny Liston
    12 - Stanley Ketchel
    13 - Jack Dempsey
    14 - Sandy Saddler
    15 - Jimmy Wilde
    16 - Wilfredo Gomez
    17 - Rocky Marciano
    18 - Henry Armstrong
    19 - Roy Jones Junior
    20 - Julian Jackson
    21 - Ruben Olivares
    22 - Carlos Zarate
    23 - Rocky Graziano
    24 - Charley Burley
    25 - Marvin Hagler


    Something like that.
     
  13. stonerose

    stonerose Guest


    Good to see Tyson so high, the guy was unique. Somewhat surprised to see Jones Jnr though . No Hearns but Hagler ? Maybe i need to look up " composite " ?
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,032
    48,148
    Mar 21, 2007
    Hearns should be in there, I must have deleted him whilst re-organising. Hold on!
     
  15. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,784
    3
    May 23, 2008
    cant argue with that....good research.