Me > you. Fact of live. Now you can continue with your sad existance in the shadow of my knowledge. :hey
Adamek,Glenn coffe and Tarver(at the time). Only top 50 fighter Haye has beaten was Mormeck and that was at cruiser, also Dawson has never been knocked out unlike David Haye.
I wouldn't have bradley in the list personally....as if you have him you should have Haye also. I would say they both 11-15 at the mo. Bodhi's list looks good
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Juan Manuel Marquez 3. Shane Mosley 4. Floyd Mayweather Junior 5. Sergio Gabriel Martinez 6. Tomasz Adamek 7. David Tua 8. Miguel Cotto 9. Chris John 10. Nonito Donaire
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 3. Shane Mosley 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Paul Williams 6. Sergio Martinez 7. Nonito Donaire Jr. 8. Juan Manuel Lopez 9. Andre Ward 10. Wladimir Klitschko 11. Vitali Klitschko 12. Bernard Hopkins 13. Miguel Cotto 14. David Haye 15. Chad Dawson 16. Timothy Bradley 17. Tomasz Adamek 18. Hozumi Hasegawa 19. Ivan Calderon 20. Andre Berto 21. Celestino Caballero 22. Lucian Bute 23. Vic Darchinyan 24. Fernando Montiel 25. Edwin Valero 26. Chris John 27. Humberto Soto 28. Yuriorkis Gamboa 29. Mikkel Kessler 30. Yonnhy Perez 31. Kelly Pavlik 32. Devon Alexander 33. Amir Khan 34. Carl Froch 35. Andre Dirrell I do not take the size of the Klits against them
1. pacquiao 2. Mayweather 3. Wlad 4. Bute 5. ward 6.mosley 7. JMM 8. Donaire 9. B Hop 10. Chad Dawson HM's Martinez, williams, Haye, Bradley
1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Carl Froch 3. Wladimir Klitschko 4. Lucian Bute 5. Sergio Martinez 6. David Haye 7. Arthur Abraham 8. Mikkel Kessler 9. Hozumi Hasegawa 10. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
Actually i cant make a big argument about the Klits scraping the bottom 10, actually i dont have them there but thats only cause 8-25 is really close not much sepearating alot of those guys. I got a problem with Vic being rated above Yohnny Perez. Also think Gamboa,Valero could be highter. The biggest clear mistake was Berto at 20, i dont feel he is anywhere near there. As for Adamek and Haye well neither has fought impressive opponents at Heavy to placed so high, if they were both at Cruiser i can see them being placed high put they are fighting at Heavys now and they have to prove themselves against top notch HWs. At least Adamek is trying to do so agains Arreola, but i think Arreola is gonna knock him out. If Chris does in impressive fashion will u put him up there?
1.pacquiao 2.mayweather 3.mosley 4.marquez 5.martinez 6.williams 7.w klitschko 8.donaire 9.dawson 10.caballero
dawson fought a somewhat drained adamek , and much older men aside , and never faced a size challenge yet. tua destroys bigger men as a habbit. adamek is now a 3 weight classes contender , a former belt holder in 2 of them .
i COUL SEE RATING ADAMEK HIGH IF HE WAS FIGHTING AT CRUISER BUT NOW HE IS AT HEAVY AND HASNT PROVEN HIMSELF, MAYBE IN AN ALL AROUND PFP RANKINGS OF RECENT FIGHTERS YOU CAN RATE HIM HIGHER THAN MANY OF THE GUYS ABOVE HIM BUT THATS NOT THE CASE HE IS A HEAVY AND BOTTOM LINE ADAMEK OR HAYE HAVENT DONE ENOUGH HERE YET. TUAatsch GET SERIOUS WHO HAS HE EVEN BEATNEN RECENTLY TO DESERVE ANY HIGH RANKING AT HEAVY MUCH LESS PFP, EVEN IN TUAS PRIME HE WAS NEVER EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO A TOP 10 PFP FIGHTER.
i rank them on their best possible form. Adamek and Darchinyan are not fighting at their natural weight. I would not take that against them. Same case as JMM, he is rated as WW, but i favor bradley to beat him at 140 but you must rate him at his best possible form. He is still a legit top 5 p4p fighter. As for areaola, if he beat adamek, he would crack my top 35. It is very hard to rate HW in a p4p sense. You are being unfair to naturally big guys