My Top 100 of all-time

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    TBooze, Oct 9, 2007
    TBooze, Oct 9, 2007
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  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's Stanley Ketchel done wrong to drop 35 places since April 2005?

    Even if you've revised your rankings it still seems a massive drop in his position,considering nothing has happened in the last two years to alter his accomplishments which have stood for the ninety-odd years since his death.
     
    young griffo, Oct 9, 2007
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  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think with hindsight I serverly overrated him. He died very young and I try not get overrate fighters because of that. I bang on about Sanchez (and indeed to a point Young Griffo) being overrated because of their early death, but I was being a hypocrite rating Ketchel on what could of been rather than what was, which I rate his 99 peers on, so I made the correction...
     
    TBooze, Oct 9, 2007
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    good effort but gjys like Jofre and Rocky are too low
     
    dmt, Oct 9, 2007
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  5. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Very solid effort!
     
    Sizzle, Oct 9, 2007
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  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great Effort. As U Know Nobody Can Possible Agree With All Ur Picks But Its Very Even. For Me Langford Maybe Higher And Hopkins And Foster Too High But What The Hell....
     
    mattdonnellon, Oct 9, 2007
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  7. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looks decent enough to me, id say de la hoya is a bit high but other than that i dont think theres anyone there thats being grossly overated or underrated.
     
    garymcfall, Oct 9, 2007
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  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no doubt a ton of one time Light Heavies in there, suprised me while I was doing it.
     
    TBooze, Oct 9, 2007
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  9. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good effort T.

    My take on it:

    - Sensible move to take Carpentier out of the number 4 spot! :lol: Good to see you give Greb more credit as well. 9 is much more tenable than 18.

    - How is Flash Elorde 30 odd spots above Carlos Ortiz, who thoroughly owned his ass?

    - Brian Mitchell above the likes of Carlos Ortiz, Jimmy McLarnin, Ted Kid Lewis, Tony Zale, Nico Locche and Freddie Welsh? Wow.... How?

    - FIghting Harada HAS to be top 100. I personally think he is well, well inside the top 50.

    -I feel Miguel Canto, Billy Conn, Owen Moran, Jack Blackburn, Lew Tendler, Dave Holly, Young Griffo, Vicente Saldivar, Johnny Dundee, Ken Buchanan and Mike Gibbons should make the top 100.

    Who I'd replace them with?

    Jeff Chandler, Brian Mitchell, Winky Wright, Manny Pacquaio, Jimmy Carruthers, James J Corbett, Rinty Monaghan, Kostya Tszyu, and possibly Jeff Fenech, Flash Elorde and Al Brown.

    Good effort overall though, a much improved list :good
     
    sweet_scientist, Oct 9, 2007
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  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I like the effort and most is placed sensibly. However, Pac's already got a better resume than Kostya Tszyu has, coming from a big Tszyu fan as well.
     
    Amsterdam, Oct 9, 2007
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  11. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marco Antonio Barrera has beat hamed, morales twice, tapia, ayala and kelley. That is much better than marcel cerdan's resume.
     
    brownpimp88, Oct 9, 2007
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  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    IMO not a good list, fighters who are way too high:

    Hopkins
    Holmes
    Foreman
    Cerdan
    Ali
    Villa
    Mayweather
    Tyson
    Locche
    etc.


    way too low/ are completely missed:


    Loi
    Jofre
    C. Ortiz
    Canzoneri
    Bogash
    Fighting Harada
    Langford
    etc.
     
    Luigi1985, Oct 9, 2007
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wow. & because you have Burley so high I will make just two observations - Dick Tiger is to low and I agree with Luigi about Langford, he should be top 3...top 15 if not.
     
    McGrain, Oct 9, 2007
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  14. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I use to have Burley and Langford as my #2 at one stage or another; but the more I read about everyone else, as great as they are, the slightly less they become in my eyes....

    There probably is a bias towards Jewish and 175lbers in my list as they are the books I have been reading in the last year. Although Unforgiveable Blackness gave Johnson a slight decline and I have tried to curb my Fleischer loves... so they must suck theory, a horrible man, but he knew his pre 1910 boxing.

    Janitor got me to study Walcott and finally because of past criticism's I tried to be as contemporary as my knowledge would allow me to be.
     
    TBooze, Oct 9, 2007
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a very, very good list. I'm most impressed because I have a top 3. And I swap them about :lol:

    At the moment.

    #1 Sugar Ray Robinson
    #2 Sam Langford
    #3 Hank Armstrong

    That really is it. If I try to add anything I get angry and start breaking things.
     
    McGrain, Oct 9, 2007
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