My Top 100 P4P -

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Jan 11, 2009.


  1. Jambo

    Jambo Active Member Full Member

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    Lets run through this peice by peice

    No real arguements here, personally i wouldn't have Williams so high, but i guess i can see how you could.

    Chris John has done NOTHING apart from rob JMM. Way too high. Winky Wright has been very inactive, drew with Taylor and lost to B-Hop. Once again way too high. Cabellero has no where near the depth of resume to be considered a top p4p fighter also.

    Pavlik, Mosley, Hatton are all okay by me, they should be placed around there.

    Chad Dawson at 25 is disgraceful, he should be much higher, especially considering you have someone like Forrest above him... WTF???

    Lopez is still a prospect, far too highly ranked. Guzman is okay, i would have him around the 15 mark. Kessler i would have a little closer to the top 10, his had a lot of dominant performances against world class opponents, only dropping a close decision to JC.

    Montiel and Darchiyan should be higher, especially considering you have someone like Cabellero, Lopez and Forrest above them... WTF??? Need some consistency.

    Campbell and Penalosa are ranked too highly, Penalso especially, Campbell only slightly. Juan diaz should be ranked higher.

    haye, donaire, Adamek, Bute, Clottey are all fairly reasonable.

    Having Froch in there is disgusting. Berto also ranked far too highly at this point in his career. Diaconu shouldn't be in there period. Not even debatable.

    Sturm and Bradley are fairly okay, same with Santos. Chagaev is ranked too highly. Larios is ranked WAYYY too highly. Valero ranked too highly alos.

    You seem to be over rating prospects who are unproven, which doesn't really work for p4p type lists.
     
  2. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    then Joel casamayor,after losing to #3 JMM is out of the list ...kind of unfair,unless he retired.
     
  3. Jambo

    Jambo Active Member Full Member

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    The last part of the list is even worse. Just riddled with inconsistencies. Valuev at 50:rofl

    Barrera at 86 or something, when you have Larios in the top 50???

    Gamboa at 100, yet you have other prospects like Diaconu ranked SOO highly??

    Guillemero Jones in the top 100.... AND well above better fighters at cruiserweight like Cunningham???

    I'll see if i can find enough time, to make up a list myself.
     
  4. jaco

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    I find it hard to comprehend how you can have Darchinyan at 27, he is easily a top 15 P4Per (Perhaps even fringe top 10). His last two performances have been total one-sided beatdowns over good fighters. I mean c'mon, he blew-out Mijares who was consensus top 10 himself. Dawson also deserves to be much higher, and Juan Manuel Lopez should probably be lower (Despite being impressive, he doesn't have many quality wins). There plenty of other things I'd change but that's normal.

    Overall not a bad effort, I understand how hard it is to create these sort of lists.
     
  5. 5Burowz

    5Burowz Guest

    Calzaghe is the 2nd best fighter in the world? Umm, o.k., whatever you say.
     
  6. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    That's only 50, slacker...:nono Where's the other 50?
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Gonzalez has already done more than Valero.
     
  8. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very hard to do a list like this so well done......however Vic should be top 15......and where is Mijares?
     
  9. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

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    I'd switch BHop and Izzy myself. And I think Darchinyan is too low.
     
  10. SexualPanda

    SexualPanda Active Member Full Member

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    Not a bad list, I know how hard these are to do, but the only one that totally baffles me HOW CAN YOU HAVE VIC AT 27??? U really must be a hater or seriously on drugs with that one. Honestly he must be the most underrated boxer on these boards. When you beat "the man" in Mijares who was in most people's P4P lists at 6 or 7, you deserve the credit, and it's not like it was a once off either. He had been awesome in his last few performances.
     
  11. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree and he will KTFO of Arce next :deal
     
  12. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Not Oscar Larios man, Jorge Linares!
     
  13. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    just because Darchinyan has 3 belts doesnt make him top 25. it was only last year he got spanked by Donaire.

    if he beats arce he goes top 25, by KO top 20.

    Dawson your right guys should be top 25.

    Mijares is in around 70 i think
     
  14. SexualPanda

    SexualPanda Active Member Full Member

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    So you don't rate the Mijares victory? A clear domination of a universally agreed P4P fighter at the time who he completely obliterated . . . Domination of other top 5 superfly's Kirilov and Gorrez (i don't care about the draw, he clearly won this fight, simply corrupt judges) . . . Your a bigger fool than the thread starter if you don't think he should be top 15 at the very LEAST. May I remind you about Hatton? Now what happened there? He beat Tszyu (who at the time was considered top 5 P4P) and instantly became top 10 in everyone's P4P lists. It's the same situation here. If you beat the man you become "the man".
     
  15. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not bad. Congratulations on doing it. I certainly don't have the patience to do a top 100.

    I don't like to pick holes in peoples lists, mainly because i have never done one myself, but i do think the guy in your avatar (the one with a body attached to his head) deserves to be higher. His CW accomplishments were quite impressive.

    Also Mijares seems excessively low. In fariness to you i don't know where you rated him before the Vic fight but considering most people had him knocking on the top 10, putting him all the way down to 60 seems a bit harsh, even if he was battered by Vic (a quite highly ranked opponent in his own right).