I'll be a good sport though, this is the most recent list I've made. #01. Harry Greb Tier 1 #02. Ray Robinson #03. Henry Armstrong #04. Sam Langford #05. Ezzard Charles #06. Benny Leonard Tier 2 #07. Roberto Duran #08. Muhammad Ali #09. Barney Ross #10. Archie Moore #11. Willie Pep #12. Tony Canzoneri #13. Joe Louis #14. Ray Leonard #15. Bob Fitzsimmons #16. Joe Gans #17. Jimmy Wilde #18. Jimmy McLarnin #19. Packey McFarland #20: Terry McGovern #21: Tommy Loughran #22: Gene Tunney #23: Mickey Walker #24: Charley Burley #25: Sandy Saddler #26: Manny Pacquiao #27: Floyd Mayweather #28: George Dixon #29: Holman Williams #30: Tommy Ryan #31: Kid Gavilan #32: Marvin Hagler #33: Roy Jones Jr. #34: Michael Spinks #35: Tommy Hearns #36: Ruben Olivares #37: Billy Conn #38: Bernard Hopkins #39: Emile Griffith #40: Tommy Gibbons #41: Fighting Harada #42: Pernell Whitaker #43: Alexis Arguello #44: Julio Cesar Chavez #45: Mike Gibbons #46: Vicente Saldivar #47: Carlos Monzon #48: Freddie Welsh #49: Jose Napoles #50: Eder Jofre #51: Ted Kid Lewis
There can't be many 15 year olds around who would even know these guys, let alone possessing knowledge of them and being able to rank them. You have incredible knowledge George, and I always look forward to reading your posts. Especially on the lower weight fighters. It's crazy knowledge, even now as a young man in your early 20's. I don't think I'd be able to compile a list. It would be too hard after you got past the first 30. But I like the tier guys what is often used, and not a specific number.
How about we just debate Pacquiao vs Jofre? I edited my response though, it was ruder than I meant it to be.
Also, having Chang but not Gonzalez or Carbajal is a take I don't agree with at all. I think Chang was better, but by their careers I don't see it.
On the new list I posted, which is still like more than a year ago and I don't know fully agree with it even now, has Pacquiao like 25 places above Jofre.
I like Harada being top 50 and being above Jofre. I don't quite understand why Jofre is typically ranked the higher of the two. Harada beat him twice while they were both prime (or at least near it. Neither was drastically past it), has more impressive p4p achievements winning titles at flyweight, bantamweight plus getting screwed over at featherweight, and has better top wins.