My top 20 Biggest Punchers 1940-1950 Rough Draft

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  1. Doc Dynamo

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    Lyle Ko'd Shavers but almost everyone considers Shavers the harder puncher.

    I don't think anyone rates Douglas over Tyson in punching power either.

    Why Thompson and Franklin over Ray? I'm not arguing against, I'd just like know your reasoning.

    Thanks for the list.
     
  2. Seamus

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    Killer work, Suzie Q!

    Much enjoyed by me. My only concern is with Shepard's placement...
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Read this..

    Youll never question his punching power again

    http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/wail1000_rocky.htm


    Sheppard kayoed Granite Chinned Hall of Famer Joey Maxim in one round. Archie Moore, who fought over 200 professional fights said Hatchetman Sheppard was the hardest hitter he ever fought. As did Maxim, and pretty much everyone else who fought Sheppard.
     
  4. janitor

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    Max Baer and Lou Nova should perhaps be on the list because they were ranked up to 1942.
     
  5. mcvey

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    Bob Baker?
    From 49 to 50 Baker had 16 fights ,13 stoppages.
    I would put him above Woodcock ,who needed 14 rds to stop a washed up Freddie Mills.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Bob Baker? In his first pro year 49-50 , he scored 13 stoppages in 16 fights.I would put him above Woodcock ,who needed 14 rds to stop a washed up Freddie Mills.
    Clarence Henry,I think he should make the cut.
    Galento and Max Baer were still active too.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

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    Nice list. I'd move Charles up a few spots maybe, and where is good old Archie?
     
  8. Mendoza

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    The photos are nice. Never saw one of Big Boy Brown. If Albert Thompson is the 2nd biggest puncher on the list, the decade might lack depth in terms of power hitters.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    I would argue the contrary. When you have huge punchers like Lee Q Murray and Hatchetman Sheppard not making the top 5, then you have very good depth. The 1940's was loaded with punchers, imo.


    Turkey Thompson was an enormous puncher. He was the David Tua of the era. 5'9 210lb with a wicked left hook. He knocked out a whole slew of Ring Magazine top 10 contenders, including a brutal one round knockout over the murderous Elmer Ray in a historical win. With a different ref, he also scores a 1 round knockout win against Bob Pastor(having knocked him down 6 times in the first round).
     
  10. Seamus

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    No, I thought he was too low not too high.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    O :lol:

    Well he might be higher when my final list comes out.
     
  12. teeto

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    Good work SQ, you know this era very well.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    Ray was a much better fighter than both. Ray had Knockout power in both fists. He was a big puncher. He was also a skilled swarmer who could outpoint you. Thompson and Franklin, did not have much else besides there freakish power. In some of Ray's biggest fights, he won by decision. He did not floor either Charles or Walcott. He did not need to rely on his power as much as guys like Franklin, and Turkey did.



    Turkey Thompson was an enormous puncher. He was the David Tua of the era. 5'9 210lb with a wicked left hook. He knocked out a whole slew of Ring Magazine top 10 contenders, including a brutal one round knockout over the murderous Elmer Ray in a historical win. With a different ref, he also scores a 1 round knockout win against Bob Pastor(having knocked him down 6 times in the first round). He also knocked out a bunch of men who were either at the time/once were Ring Magazine top 10 including Elmer Ray, Lee Q Murray, Eddie Blunt, Gus Dorazio, Johnny Haynes, Al Hart, Pat Valentino. Thompson even knocked out a 7'2 300lb Big Ben Moroz, whom sported a 15" height advantage on Thompson!!

    Thompson was easy to outbox. But Few men of the era could go toe to toe with Turkey and come out alive. Elmer Ray couldn't. Thompson blasted him outta there. Perhaps only Joe Louis could have. So I rank Thompson very high as a puncher, but not necessarily a fighter. He was David Tua in 1945.


    Lem Franklin's heavyweight run from 1939-1941 is one of the greatest untold stories in history. Franklin literally tore through the division, beating contender after contender by knockout to earn a # 2 ranking. Frankling went 19-0 with 17 knockouts during this incredible run!

    Frankling during this 3 year period knocked out the following men who were/at one time Ring Magazine top 10....Lee Savold, Perk Daniels, Willie Reddish, Eddie Blunt, Jimmy Bivins, Hatchetman Sheppard, Tony Musto, Abe Simon. Unbelievable! Note he wasn't beating these men by decision, he knocked all of them out!!

    Ray went on a great knockout streak during the mid 1940s, but he did not knockout anywhere near the calibre of competition Franklin did. It's a shame Franklin did not get the title shot instead of the Abe Simon rematch(Which simon got by getting knocked out by Franklin!!!)
     
  14. SuzieQ49

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    I thought about putting him on Chris(he would rate extremley high) but he really did not establish a heavyweight identity until the 1950s. He did defeat some highly rated heavyweights during this time, but he never really campaigned as a heavyweight, and Ring Magazine never put him in their rankings. Should I include him?
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    Anyone think I should switch up my top 8? Is Hatchetman too low? How about Lee Q Murray? Is Harry Bobo too low?