My top 20 Cruiserweight of all time 1 VS 1

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  1. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be taken into account the fighter must have fought at least 1 fight for the title
    Here we go

    1-Oleksandr Usyk
    2-Evander Holyfield
    3-David Haye
    4-James Toney
    5-Tomasz Adamek
    6.Steve Cunningham
    7-Juan Carlos Gomez
    8-Guillermo Jones
    9-Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    10-Denis Lebedev
    11-Vassily Jirov
    12-Murat Gassiev
    13-Jean Marc Mormeck
    14-Mairis Briedis
    15-Carlos De Leon jr
    16-Firat Arslan
    17-Ossie Ocassio
    18-Krzysztof Włodarczyk
    19-Johnny Nelson
    20-Grigory Drozd


    thoughts?
    any change?
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

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    No Huck?
    Orlin Norris?

    Wamba, Cole, and Nate Miller all deserve it over Drozd.
     
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    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Huck I was about to put him in the last places, but for me he lost in almost all the fights that he won in closed decisions , Arslan1, Afolabi1, Lebedev, Afolabi 2 was close too,his summary is loose without these fights.
    I think Drozd could beat Huck in the same way as Wamba and Cole but they would be even fights anyway
    Norris wasnt really good
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A fighter that beat Nate Miller, Tony Tucker, Greg Page, Oliver McCall, Renaldo Snipes, Jesse Ferguson, Marcel Victor Figeroa and Arthur Williams wasn't really good?

    Dude, Norris was awesome! He just had a bad career path. Should of started out as a cruiser, won the belt there first, and then moved up.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Carlos Deleon should be much higher on that list. And as already mentioned Orlin Norris should be on there somewhere. Alfred Cole could probably make the lower part of the top 20 as well
     
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  6. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of the ones you named, he beat them old

    I would rank him in my top 20-25 anyway
     
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    At number 20 I had the doubt between Drozd or Cole
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair play to you. There are about five names on there that I would defiantly bump for Norris.
     
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    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    where would you put him?
     
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    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    which would be?
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey, I have already said fair play on your reasoning, but for me...


    Guillermo Jones- best wins was made a no contest due to being a PEDS cheat
    Grigory Drozd- too short a time on top
    Firat Arslan- I guess he beat Drozd, who you are big on, but mostly loses the big ones.
    Carlos De Leon- Long time at the top, but that was when the division was abysmal.


    MAYBE...
    Gassiev- career isn't over yet. We have to see how big his victories are in context.
    Breidis- Same as Gassiev.
    Krzysztof Włodarczyk- I would really have to take a hard look at the wins and losses in context.
    Johnny Nelson- Same thing as above. He was at the top a long time, but the big names aren't really there.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

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    Fair enough
     
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  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    somewhere between 5-8. Dude is a hall of famer and the divisions only 4 time champion and first cruiserweight champ ever. He wasn’t the prettiest fighter to watch but he was around for a long time at or near the top
     
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  14. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good list but I agree with others about Norris. He was an excellent fighter and should be in the there.

    Another guy who should be on the back end of the list or at least considered is O'Neal Bell. He was a very exciting fighter that had sone nice wins.
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the top 5 is spot on.

    I would however have Briedis as high as 6 with his wins over Huck, Perez, Gevor and Glowacki. Gave Usyk his toughest fight to date in what is his only lose. Moves into the top 5 if he beats Dorticos next.
     
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