My top 20 heavyweights never to win a Ring Magazine / Lineal title.

I would sday that Wills, Moore and Byrd are too low.

Joe Goddard, Fred Fulton, Tommy Loughran, Nino Valdez, and Ray Mercer should be in somwhere.

 

McVey has wins over:
Clark x5
Langford x2
Jeannette 1
Ferguson
Bell x2
Russell
Martin x3
Wills x2
Plus 6 draws with Langford and 1 with Jeannette.
Of his losses 7 were to Langford 2 were to Jeannette,3 were to Johnson,2 were to Wills.I think he should be in anybodys top ten.

 

Jimmy Young , Lyle higher

 

Yes, well er, don't call us we'll call you.

 

Is vitaly klitscho a lineal champion?

 

I have Langford at number 1 McVey at 5. I've already shown that Johnson signed to fight his three best challengers but was prevented from doing so by circumstances this is undeniable, irrefutable, and unarguable.
If you sign to fight them but are prevented from doing so by the promoter withdrawing the offer then by definition you cannot be accused of ducking them ,well nowhere but on Planet Mendoza.

If you want to divert your thread in this direction, that's your choice. It matters not to me.
I'm not going to keep posting the same verified,primary sourced information just so you can totally ignore it
as though it never existed.Its all there in book form provided by Clay Moyle , Adam Pollack,and Geoffrey C Ward.
Pretending it does not exist in print is akin to denying its June and summer!.
The fact that I correct your lies does not mean that I'm interested in your opinion,only in correcting it.
I couldn't care less what you think and to attempt to get you to admit to the truth would be an exercise in futility.
I can spend my time much more profitably in my garden, reading a book in the sun.

 

You showed me nothing ,never have,never will .

Over a year ago , Clay Moyle sent me a copy of the contract Johnson signed to fight Langford in 1908 it was to be at the NSC in Covent Garden in Feb1909 .
I know a damn sight more than you do about it,always have and always will!
I've asked you a multitude of times to produce these"big offers for Johnson to defend against them" you have never produced ONE single offer. You don't even know what the purses were for Johnson's projected defences against them .
You're talking to some one who has forgotten more about this subject than you have yet to learn.

Johnson's character has absolutely no bearing on his abilities as a boxer and for the life of me I can't see how it is relevant to this thread either,but hey, its your thread , do what the f*ck you want! Why would I give flying f*ck!
I don't have heroes, and Johnson is far from my favourite fighter. I just dislike liars who want to re-adjust history because of a phobic hatred for a man they perceive as an uppity n****r!
You can quote who the f*ck you want ,I can rebut anything you produce in my sleep!
Did you get Rhas Al Ghul to "ghost the underlined for you?
Because its the sort of gibberish he posts,but at least he has the excuse English it's not his first language!

 

How about David Haye? Brewster?

And let's stop the hate once and for all: John Ruiz deserves a spot

 

This list is not numbered as regards ability, or have I missed something?

 

The name of the author of it should explain everything.

 

I'm stumped Sam, Ra's AI - Ghul means naff all to me.....................