My top 20 Light Heavyweights, All Time

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    1 - Sam Langford
    2 - Ezzard Charles
    3 - Gene Tunney
    4 - Archie Moore
    5 - Billy Conn
    6 - Micheal Spinks
    7 - Roy Jones
    8 - Bob Foster
    9 - Tommy Loughran
    10-Harold Johnson
    11-Maxie Rosenbloom
    12-Jimmy Bivins
    13-Kid Norfolk
    14-Matthew Saad Muhammad
    15-Battling Siki
    16-Geroges Carpantier
    17-JH Lewis
    18-Lloyd Marshall
    19-Battling Levinsky
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    McGrain, Nov 28, 2007
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  2. janitor

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    No Jack Dillon?
     
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  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know how Langford can be ahead of Charles, or Tunney ahead of Moore.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, Dillon did not make it.

    I will not say this is a complete list, but it's going to be. Give as the scoop on dillon, and the guys on that list he puts firmly behind him.
     
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  5. Maxmomer

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    I would include Gibbons and maybe put Tunney at number 2.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    This is a bone of contention for me too (see notes), at the moment it is the case because I would expect Langford to batter Charles.

    Which wins make Charles the better man, clean, for you?

    Tunney Moore is another very close one for me. It is my contention that Tunney has the better wins, Moore fought the better fighters. In such a situation i'd often look to head to head, but in fact I have Moore beating Tunney. So it's wins, film, projected H2H v other top fighters.
     
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  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also, Harry Greb should be in Top 5 somewhere, IMHO.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    I am allowing for Greb's introduction, just haven't picked out a spot for him yet - my current #20 is 51% tongue in cheek. :D
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Are you happy with Langford as a #1?
     
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  10. Maxmomer

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    Yeah, I think he was at his best around Light Heavy.
     
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  11. Senya13

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    Langford has nothing significant at light heavy weight. He could have been good at that weight, but we don't know for sure.

    Tunney didn't win a title and didn't really prove himself the better man against best light heavys of his time, having close calls vs Greb, Loughran, Delaney. I'd expect him to have serious troubles with many other fighters on your list.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    I would too! There is not a man weighing between 175 and 200 that would have anything other than serious trouble with these guys.

    And Tunney beat all the men you mention, did he not? I think you are being a little hard on him.

    But let's hear - which guys do you have above Tunney?
     
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  13. janitor

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    If nobody else then he should be firmly above Battling Levinski who he won the series against and then some. I would also say that Carpinter and Siki should be lower than him.

    I think Dillon is a pound for pound great in his own right in the mould of Langford and Greb.
     
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  14. Maxmomer

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    And what about Bob Fitzsimmons or Philadelphia Jack O’ Brian?
     
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  15. McGrain

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    High praise indeed.
     
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