My top 20 Light Heavyweights, All Time

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Skills are important to me. Jones' are incredible. As my first post suggests, I think there is a case for switching them though. And the reasons you outline here would be the reasons why.

    Let's not forget what Charles acheived at Heavyweight (and what Charles couldn't. I do consider what happens to the divisions greats outside of the division in question - it helps to round of the appraisal of the fighter...you are right, of course, that Moore dominated the division for a longer period of time. But Charles was also a great LHW champ - meanwhile he proved in dominating a series with Moore tha he was the better man.

    I agree with you surmise of Tiger, and at MW, I rate and love him. He was a great man as you said. But the version of this fighter that appeared at LHW would not beat Chad Dawson, IMO.
     
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  2. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tbooze,thomas hearns is no 39 for you yet beat your much higher ranked hill (15) and andries (29) both very convincingly,hill being prime as well....
     
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  3. teeto

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    Vivtor Galindez should have been in my top 20 (on page 2 of this forum) , I rushed it after my top 6.
     
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  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Charles beat Moore three times, and I have Moore at #1 and Charles at #9...
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Well the placement of Charles would hardly be devoid of criticism. I'd say it's the first thing most would jump on. You have him lower or similar at 175 alone as most have him ATG P4P.
     
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  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have a lot of time respect for Charles, I have him at #14 all-time, he was a brilliant fighter. But he choose to make a living fighting Heavyweights when he became too good for 175lbers and was avoided.
     
    TBooze, Nov 30, 2007
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Dillon and Delaney should make anyones twenty,imo,possibly Slattery too,Greb,Fitz,,I wouldnt have room for Siki.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    You have Charles at #9 175 but #14 ATG?
     
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  9. Woddy

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    David Vedder is surely an all time great.
     
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  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes...:huh
     
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  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Corrected it for you;)
     
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  12. janitor

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    1. Sam Langford
    2. Ezzard Charles
    3. Gene Tunney
    4. Archie Moore
    5. Harry Grebb
    6. Michael Spinks
    7. Bob Fitzsimmons
    8. Jack Dillon
    9. Billy Conn
    10. Tommy Loughran
    11. Kid Norfolk
    12. Joe Choynski
    13. Tommy Gibbons
    14. Maxie Rosenbloom
    15. Harold Johnson
    16. John Henry Lewis
    17. Jimmy Bivins
    18. Bob Foster
    19. Roy Jones
    20. Jack Delaney
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah, that's what i thought too.
     
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  14. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why?
     
    TBooze, Dec 2, 2007
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    Because of the sheer amount of fighters across soooooo many divisions that compete for the spots. Charles didn't do thatmuch at Heavyweight as to take him from a 9 175 rank to a 14 ATG IMO. I'd say 80 or 90% of his achievement was at 175, look at what he did there. He beat your number 1, 3 times for a start. At heavyweight he beat the worst version of Louis there ever was. Granted he did plenty still at Heavy, but his real star burnt at 175. Having him 9 is ridiculous to be honest.
     
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