My top 20 Welterweights, all time

Only 6 fights at the welterweight limit with 4 of them being against nobodies, one for useless colored title (with Henry Armstrong being the champ there should have been no colored title anymore) and one against a good, but not a great fighter, certainly doesn't deserve an all-time ranking that that weight. Burley was walking around at 155 pounds by late 1938 already. Kinda like some experts rating Billy Conn as a middleweight.

 

We don't agree on a lot, but here we do. Jose Napoles was arguably the most dominant welterweight champion of all time - the Carlos Monzon of his weight class - he should unquestionably be rated in the top five and certainly higher than Burley.

 

Boxing News regularly called Napoles 'the best pound-for-pound fighter since Robinson'. This along with his title reign, make him a Top 3 cert.

 

McGrain - do you believe Cocoa Kid was better than someone like Armando Muniz or Hedgemon Lewis? Or that Holman Williams was better than Curtis Cokes?

 

Manassa. Always wanted to ask. At the age of 19, you seem to be deeply into old timers. Kinda odd. How long you been into boxing for. You sound about 60 mate with the eras you talk about. It seems your stuck in a time machine. You got a big fight collection?

 

Besides, Burley was fighting at weltweight as an amateur already, he outgrew that weight soon after he turned pro, probably only fighting close to that limit in hope to get a title shot.

 

Why is Griffith rated above Napoles? I've mentioned earlier in this thread why he isn't. Answer it. :good

 

Cheers.

The Murderer's Row & company have been underrated heavily in the past, but since this new surge of popularity and recognition they seem to have surpassed their actual abilities. Just like Larry Holmes - apparently he was underrated at one time, you'd never guess it now though.

 

I think Mac has achieved his aim...to subtlely turn this into a good old charley chinwag. :good

 

Who told you I was nineteen? I'm forty nine.