30's not enough, and 50's too many. Please voice your opinion if you care to and what you agree/disagree with. My Top 40 Pound for Pound list as of 11/24: 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Sergio Martinez 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. Timothy Bradley 7. Nonito Donaire 8. Fernando Montiel 9. Paul Williams 10. Andre Ward 11. Chad Dawson 12. Vitali Klitschko 13. Juan Manuel Lopez 14. Miguel Cotto 15. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 16. Giovanni Segura 17. Ivan Calderon 18. Jean Pascal 19. Shane Mosley 20. Celestino Caballero 21. Devon Alexander 22. Bernard Hopkins 23. David Haye 24. Tomasz Adamek 25. Mikkel Kessler 26. Lucian Bute 27. Yuriorkis Gamboa 28. Chris John 29. Kelly Pavlik 30. Steve Cunningham 31. Andre Dirrell 32. Arthur Abraham 33. Carl Froch 34. Amir Khan 35. Andre Berto 36. Anselmo Moreno 37. Vic Darchinyan 38. Felix Sturm 39. Marco Huck 40. Roman Gonzalez
How can you have Glass Jawed hypejob Dawson above Pascal, and Plodder Pavlik high above Carl Froch? :roflatsch Disgraceful list. 1/10.:dead:dead
Chad Dawson isn't even top 20 worthy due to losses/lack of opponents. and wtf... did I just see Marco Huck in a top 40 p4p list? lol you gotta be kidding.... and how is Haye above Adamek? Adamek already dominated 2 divisions, while Haye only 1, and is just living off his name in UK / talking now-a-days in a division which he thinks he owns, which only Wlad has claim to that... arguably Vitali. Haye got a gift vs. Valuev(yes a gift, cause despite the 12th round, he did NOTHING in that fight to win a title.) If you want a title, you have to earn it to win. David had one lucky round where he shuttered Valuev for a few seconds. Rounds 1-11 were honestly either even / too close to call a favorite due to either lack of talent and skill(Valuev) or lack of heart and will(Haye) Haye is garbage, Adamek's willingness in the ring, would scramble Haye. 2 easy defenses vs. shot Ruiz and has-never-been Harrison, isn't worthy of being P4P in my eyes.
Sorry man, but if you're saying his list is bad because Haye is above Adamek then that's a bad excuse. I think most people have Haye rated higher
im not saying its bad for that sole reason im saying its bad overall. i can pick and point anything i wanted to. but what i did post, is true. there is no justification in thinking that Haye should be above Adamek. Adamek has actually made PROGRESS in 2010. Whilst Haye made DISSAPOINTMENT in 2010. Estrada, Arreola, Grant, and Maddalone > Ruiz and Harrison. 4 fights compared to 2. Estrada, Arreola > Ruiz Estrada, Arreola, Grant, Maddalone > Harrison. your counter-argument? interesting to hear it. p4p has always been about pushing the limits and increasing the competition. Adamek has done so, being hes fighting to win a title in his third, and the highest weight, division.
Vic D at 37, yet Nonito is at 7 from riding off Vics acheivements since he beat him, if Vic is so **** at No 37 then Nonito should be around 35 since its his only notable win.
Fair criticisms. Specifically with Mayweather, Donaire, Dawson, and Pavlik. You guys fail to realize that everybody is going to disagree with anyone's top 40 no matter what, some of you are kind of sounding like a couple of teenage assholes about it though. Except for the Haye/Adamek thing. Don't get me wrong, I hate David Haye, but I think he gets the slight edge of the two. (Speaking of, KillerDeluxe, if Adamek is that great, you do realize Dawson beat him in a wide decision, no?) I do have them right next to each other, like one spot, so... yeah. KillerDeluxe, your definition of "p4p" is a little odd. Never heard that before. I judge the fighters by a combination of their achievements and how I personally view their skill. Anyone who is so critical, please post yours to show where your value lies. It is easy to point and degrade, but none would be willing to put their reputation on the line contradicting themselves later. Oh well...