My Top 40 P4P List

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    30's not enough, and 50's too many. Please voice your opinion if you care to and what you agree/disagree with.

    My Top 40 Pound for Pound list as of 11/24:
    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Sergio Martinez
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Wladimir Klitschko
    6. Timothy Bradley
    7. Nonito Donaire
    8. Fernando Montiel
    9. Paul Williams
    10. Andre Ward
    11. Chad Dawson
    12. Vitali Klitschko
    13. Juan Manuel Lopez
    14. Miguel Cotto
    15. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    16. Giovanni Segura
    17. Ivan Calderon
    18. Jean Pascal
    19. Shane Mosley
    20. Celestino Caballero
    21. Devon Alexander
    22. Bernard Hopkins
    23. David Haye
    24. Tomasz Adamek
    25. Mikkel Kessler
    26. Lucian Bute
    27. Yuriorkis Gamboa
    28. Chris John
    29. Kelly Pavlik
    30. Steve Cunningham
    31. Andre Dirrell
    32. Arthur Abraham
    33. Carl Froch
    34. Amir Khan
    35. Andre Berto
    36. Anselmo Moreno
    37. Vic Darchinyan
    38. Felix Sturm
    39. Marco Huck
    40. Roman Gonzalez
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    garbage as always

    but thats expected from a garbage poster
     
  3. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    How can you have Glass Jawed hypejob Dawson above Pascal, and Plodder Pavlik high above Carl Froch? :lol::rofl:patsch

    Disgraceful list. 1/10.:dead:dead
     
  4. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Stopped reading here.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Where's Maragrito or Clottey :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  6. Reilence

    Reilence Grepolis Mania Full Member

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    +1
     
  7. KillerDeluxe

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    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Vitali Klitschko
    4. Floyd Mayweather
    5. Sergio Martinez
     
  8. KillerDeluxe

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    Chad Dawson isn't even top 20 worthy due to losses/lack of opponents.

    and wtf... did I just see Marco Huck in a top 40 p4p list? lol you gotta be kidding....

    :lol:

    and how is Haye above Adamek? Adamek already dominated 2 divisions, while Haye only 1, and is just living off his name in UK / talking now-a-days in a division which he thinks he owns, which only Wlad has claim to that... arguably Vitali.

    Haye got a gift vs. Valuev(yes a gift, cause despite the 12th round, he did NOTHING in that fight to win a title.)

    If you want a title, you have to earn it to win. David had one lucky round where he shuttered Valuev for a few seconds. Rounds 1-11 were honestly either even / too close to call a favorite due to either lack of talent and skill(Valuev) or lack of heart and will(Haye)

    Haye is garbage, Adamek's willingness in the ring, would scramble Haye.

    2 easy defenses vs. shot Ruiz and has-never-been Harrison, isn't worthy of being P4P in my eyes.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    lol how the weather over there in the Ukraine
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Sorry man, but if you're saying his list is bad because Haye is above Adamek then that's a bad excuse. I think most people have Haye rated higher
     
  11. KillerDeluxe

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    i dont live in Ukraine, but im sure its a beautiful country.
     
  12. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    o ok, I've been talking to this girl from over there. She says it's going to snow in a few days
     
  13. KillerDeluxe

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    im not saying its bad for that sole reason im saying its bad overall.


    i can pick and point anything i wanted to.

    but what i did post, is true.

    there is no justification in thinking that Haye should be above Adamek. Adamek has actually made PROGRESS in 2010. Whilst Haye made DISSAPOINTMENT in 2010.

    Estrada, Arreola, Grant, and Maddalone > Ruiz and Harrison.

    4 fights compared to 2.

    Estrada, Arreola > Ruiz

    Estrada, Arreola, Grant, Maddalone > Harrison.

    your counter-argument? interesting to hear it.

    p4p has always been about pushing the limits and increasing the competition. Adamek has done so, being hes fighting to win a title in his third, and the highest weight, division.
     
  14. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vic D at 37, yet Nonito is at 7 from riding off Vics acheivements since he beat him, if Vic is so **** at No 37 then Nonito should be around 35 since its his only notable win.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Fair criticisms. Specifically with Mayweather, Donaire, Dawson, and Pavlik. You guys fail to realize that everybody is going to disagree with anyone's top 40 no matter what, some of you are kind of sounding like a couple of teenage assholes about it though.

    Except for the Haye/Adamek thing. Don't get me wrong, I hate David Haye, but I think he gets the slight edge of the two. (Speaking of, KillerDeluxe, if Adamek is that great, you do realize Dawson beat him in a wide decision, no?) I do have them right next to each other, like one spot, so... yeah. KillerDeluxe, your definition of "p4p" is a little odd. Never heard that before. I judge the fighters by a combination of their achievements and how I personally view their skill.

    Anyone who is so critical, please post yours to show where your value lies. It is easy to point and degrade, but none would be willing to put their reputation on the line contradicting themselves later. Oh well...