My top fifteen heavyweight jabs.

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  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hes asking you to do a poll to prove to you how wrong you are! you rightly flapped it because it be overwhelming against you
     
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    Why don't he put up the poll.? Its his idea.

    Actually don't quote me unless you have anything to offer about the subject of jabs.
     
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  3. Birmingham

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    course they would put wlad on their list u nut job..Liston was about 73yrs old and slow as fook. His jab was good, but he fought smaller dudes
     
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  4. Mendoza

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    Dino,

    Please opt out. Your bad for the anti Wlad cause because you don't even know what you are talking about.

    Wlad jab is brilliant. See the second Brewster march or either Byrd fight.

    For the rest of the posters here I hope you enjoy this thread and add in your own opinions. Mine can change a bit with good examples on the jabbers.

    I plan to do the top 15 right crosses next.
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    Louis was a tad short on range and not vetstle enough with his jab to land without his feet set or hit a moving target.

    This to me is why he didn't rate in the top three.
     
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  6. Birmingham

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    Where do you have Wlad on the jab top 10 list Mendoza ??
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    I might add Seldon. Good catch
     
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  8. heerko koois

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    Holmes
    Foreman
    Bruno
    Biggs
    WK
    Lewis
    Louis
    Pulev
    Williams
    Tunney
    Tillis
    M Spinks
    Bowe
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  9. heerko koois

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    I always liked Tyson,s jab! but he didn,t use it much
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    You have Wlad over Lewis so lets have a closer look at how they compare in the jabbing dept shall we?

    Wlad vs Sam Peters

    500 jabs he threw and only landed 142. Thats a 28% connect rate.

    Lewis vs Evander Holyfield

    Threw 364 and still landed more - 187 with a connect rate of 51%

    Now take into consideration that Peters was a plodding bum with zero head movement and Holyfield was an ATG , much harder to hit and was a master of slipping , parrying and evading jabs.
    Peter didn't know the meaning of slipping a punch.

    With evidence like this , there is no way Wlad can rank above Lewis as a jabber.

    Your pick is simply based on fanboyism and hero worship. Its a mickey mouse list made by a guy who is is a fan of people more than the sport of boxing itself.
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    You could argue top five easily. I had him at # 2.

    Some argue for Foreman. Sorry it was too slow. He did not out jab anyone with a decent jab in the 70's. Ali and Young owned him.

    In the 1990s it did not help him vs Morrison, Morrer, Holyfield or even Alex Stewart.

    Foreman's jab was a heavy punch but there were many better than he with this punch.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Dino,

    Do you own poll. Does Wlad have a top 15 all time jab or not and please make the results public..

    Even your duplicate accounts will have a hard time agreeing with you!

    Just go for it. A duck will only show us you don't even believe your own BS. Multiple posters are calling you out...
     
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  13. Birmingham

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    Good call. Could out jab taller rangier opponents regular. That tilt to the side and fire was very effective
     
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  14. The Long Count

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    I don't agree with him not being able to hit a moving target but fair points.
    I would include him and notice how dominant longevity goes hand in hand with the Jab-Louis, Holmes, Wlad
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    How come Wlado couldn't keep Peters at the end of his jab like Lewis done against Tua.

    Why was Wlad hopped off the canvas and ran , cowered and held to beat the band against a much lesser version of Tua.

    Great jabbers can keep guys at range. Wlad was great at being a human squid.
     
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