My Top10 HEAVYWEIGHT!...rankings here

I have no problem with Chagaev or Maskaev as #2 and #3 in whatever order. Ibragimov as #4. Peter as #5 in my view.

He clearly lost to Toney in their first fight and Toney was clearly in much worse shape for their second. Anyways, I wouldn't have rated Toney above 5th before their first fight so how does beating him bring him up to 2nd?

 

That looks like a good list. After a bit of review, I think I'd have it:

1. Wlad Klitschko
2. Ruslan Chagaev
3. Sultan Ibragimov
4. Oleg Maskaev
5. Samuel Peter
6. Nicolai Valuev
7. Calvin Brock
8. Chris Byrd
9. Sergei Lyakhovich
10. Lamon Brewster

11. Shannon Briggs(if he doesn't retire)
12. Oliver McCall
13. Hasim Rahman
14. Eddie Chambers
15. Luan Krasniqi
16. John Ruiz
17. Evander Holyfield
18. Tony Thompson
19. Vladimir Virchis

20. Chris Arreola
21. Oleg Platov
22. Alexander Dimitrenko
23. Alexander Povetkin
24. David Tua
25. Micheal Sprott
26. Matt Skelton
27. Ray Austin
28. Joe Mesi
29. Danny Williams
30. Andrew Golota

 

I very much like your list Frazier, but doesn't Oleg get SOME credit for defending his title once? The other champions (except of course Wladimir who is anyone's #1 if they are credible at all) haven't even defended once. I know Okhello is nothing special, but that is the sole reason I have Oleg #2 or 3.

Not that I even really disagree with your list, I'm just rationalizing.

 

Top 10 is spot on, the other 20 don't matter much anyway.:good

 

Yeah, I was just saying. I don't have any real problems not putting Maskaev #4 or #5.

What is the difference between being #1 on every list and being champion? It was a question I posed in an article that was rejected by the site, but it really bothers me. I mean, if you are the favorite in every fight against any other fighter in the world, how is that different from champion?

There are obviously some distinctions to be made. For instance, before Mayweather fought Judah he was probably a vegas favorite over any other fighter at 147, but he obviously didn't do anything for champion status. All of the other "champions" at heavyweight have no defenses (or, in Maskaev's case, only one and against Okhello). They JUST won their belts... I just don't see how the boxing community hasn't already proclaimed Wladimir the, perhaps unofficial, champion of the division.

I try not to play favorites, I really do. After Wlad lost to Sanders and Brewster I wrote him off, as I think many did. Still, the facts don't lie, and in his last 5 fights he has done more than any other Heavyweight in the world. I really don't get it.

 

Why is Chris Bryd in the top 10 when Wlad destroyed him and he hasn't beaten any of the fresh crop of talent in the division? I think Ruiz and Byrd need to be dropped down and Virchis moved to 10 and Dimitrenko needs to come up a few spots too. Although I saw Briggs as a media hype he could still blast out Tye Fields and nearly everyone you have highlighted in yellow. Also, I think Holyfield is too high as well. I would pretty much garantee Timo Hoffman would put Evander out of his misery and he isn't even on the list.

 

Both good points :deal

 

Thats alot of eastern europeans.

 

Good list on the whole..

Byrd maybe a bit lower,

McCall perhaps a bit higher..

All in all good picks.. Samuel is a definite future champ, Good call in placing him at number 2 :good

 

1. Klitschko
2. Klitschko
3. Garbage
4. Garbage
5. Garbage
6. Garbage
7. Holyfield
8. Garbage
9. Garbage
10. Garbage

 

You don't get ranked based on what you WILL do.

 

all most two years later,,, and now what are your rankings

 

btw..are you dead or something??? lol

 

Hopefully.