My unbiased opinion on Terence Crawford

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe Terence Crawford is an exceptionally skilled fighter, but nothing he has done has convinced me that he beats the likes of Porter, Thurman, or Spence. I've noticed that since he fought Gamboa, he has not been in there with a fighter who is fast, powerful, and willing to let their hands go. The Benavidez fight tonight did not show how he would really do against the other top welters. Is he a top ten P4P fighter? Sure. Is he top five P4P? I honestly don't know. From a skill standpoint you can say he is top 5 P4P. But, when you look at the total package of skill and resume, he isn't there. I think Loma, Usyk, Canelo, GGG(if you think he won both fights), Spence, Mikey, and maybe Thurman have more of a package than he does. Everybody points to the "eye test" but the "eye test" doesn't tell the whole story. Let's look at his opponents.

    1. Gamboa - The best fighter Crawford has ever fought and the first fighter to actually hurt Crawford. But due to size, Gamboa fell.

    2. Postol - Good fighter but simply too limited. Just lost to Josh Taylor and hasn't made any noise since.

    3. Felix Diaz - He lost to Lamont before fighting Crawford and he just recently lost a fight in the DR. He was never anything special.

    4. Indongo - Was just luck imo. Prograis finished Postol much faster than Crawford so this should be an asterisk in a way.

    5. Jeff Horn - A complete bum imo. I had Manny beating Horn 9-3 or 8-4.

    5. Jose Benavidez - Talented fighter but really nothing that special. He didn't let his hands go and he didn't cut off the ring effectively. He also lost Herrera(imo) Plus, he was basically fighting on one leg.

    So, Crawford is skilled but I have seem much better and more prove champions in history. I feel that he has benefited from dominating B and C level competition. Does he get the big fights? I don't know. But what is clear, is that he still has a lot to prove like the other fighters.
     
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  2. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    crawford has looked fantastic in all his fights whether its b or c level fighters. porter has looked like crap against some b and c level fighters, so has thurman, so has spence. dont give me all that bull crap.
     
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  3. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thurman and Spence have both fought much better fighters than Crawford has. Who has Spence and Thurman looked crap against that is B and C-level? I don't think i've honestly seen Porter look crap against B and C level.
     
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  4. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There will always be people trying to rain on somebodies parade. Just give the man his props and keep it moving.
     
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  5. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with every word you said. That body shot in round 4 made me think of Spence.

    Thurman can move just like Crawford and all of those guys (Spence, Porter, Garcia, Thurman) are younger than Crawford.
     
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  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Crawford is doing what's he supposed to do with the opponents placed in front of him. I've said this before. Most of the rounds he has lost in his career have been the "feeling out" rounds. Once he gets his rythme, timing and adjustments down, he dominates the fight. He showed that tonight. Damn good fighter. The only way I see Crawford losing is in the first 3-4 rounds of a fight. Once the fight gets into the 5th, 6th he has figured his opponent out and it's tough to get things turned around.
     
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  7. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It shouldn't tale 4 rounds to figure your opponent out.
     
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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I agree 100%. Eye test wise, he looks VERY VERY good. Excellent. Movement, speed, power, technique, variety of punches. But that means nothing until you do it vs the very best. Is he one of the best P4P, yes, but I just don't like people putting him as top P4P. That's biased BS.

    Who has he beat?
     
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  9. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    While i agree with your unbias opinion about Crawford, I disagree with this statement. It took Floyd 5 rounds to figure out Zab Judah. Some fighters needs more time to calculate info faster than others.
     
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    Excellent post.
     
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  11. Manfred

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    The only one with a significant age advantage is Spence.
     
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    Mayweather did the same thing, and his career turned out to be fairly decent.
     
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    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zab Judah is actually better than anyone Crawford has ever fought. Think about that.
     
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  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ok, and you can figure out opponents and adjust better than Crawford? If so, who are you, who is the best pro opponent you have beaten, what belts have you won and in what division(s)?
     
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  15. drenlou

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    I think Benevidez was his toughest fight so far. He got caught with clean counters for the first 6 rounds and was in a very competitive fight up to that pointt. He dominated Postal and Gamboa was just too wreckless. Very good fighter and top 3 P4P But he's going to have a harder time ruling 147 than he did 140 for sure.
     
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