My unbiased scoring of the Pac vs Marquez HBO recast.

if you put it that way it does look moronic but when you go see the round-by-round compubox results then you see the whole picture clearer.

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I had it 7-3-2 for JMM.

 

I genuinely just find the whole system irrelevant, and see it as more of a very rough stats and figures for casual fans. I don't believe it can be used as a relevant source in an actual boxing debate. Don't get me wrong, figures in front of you (whether accurate or not) can maybe show you how the fight went, but it's always easier to judge whilst you watch it.

 

Well put.

Since the fight plenty of posters have put across reasonable arguments as to why they scored it for Pac or a draw. Each time they've been met with arrogance and derision when it's obvious the poster's been genuine in their scoring.

 

compubox may be irrelevant or flawed but it is still the closest thing we have to what the judges actually see on ringside not a single angle or viewpoint that we see when we watch live or on tv.

 

are those 7 rounds clear rounds for dinamita because i struggle to find more clear rounds aside from round 5.

 

I disagree, the majority of the time, the television coverage is a lot clearer to that of what the compubox judges see.

1 judge may see a clean shot land.
The 2nd judge does not see it land due to the angle.
The 3rd judge also does not see the punch land.

There could be other instances were all 3 see the landing clean punch. But there WILL also be times when the judges don't know whether the punch landed clean, or on the arms, or was blocked via glove.

Whereas, the television coverage has numerous angles of coverage, and the only time a punch goes unseen nowadays, is when the referee steps in front of the camera.

 

Most of them were clear enough not to hesitate for a moment who should get it. I'm pretty good at scoring.

 

i see, which of those 7 rounds you scored for marquez instantly? and did you scored it once or you re-scored it again?

i actually thought that marquez did a great job watching it live while pac fought a bad fight. when i rewatched the fight yesterday, i was actually surprised that pac did not do too badly and actually fought a good technical fight. he was actually controlling the action with jmm doing what he does best, waiting for pacquiao for a chance to counter.

i actually get what you mean with scoring it without hesitation since you have to factor things like who controlled the pace, the ring general, the aggressor, the one who landed the clear and effective punches and the style that you preferred but i can admit a close round when i see one.

 

Marquez won the fight you ****ing imbeciles. :dead:dead:dead

 

:deal

Seems like this guy was really listening hard to corrupt Harold Lederman's scorecard. atsch

 

Close rounds can be clear enough not to hesitate for whatever viewing, I did not score a round differently for the 2nd time, although changing one draw to JMM was tempting.

It is WRONG to factor complete and utter non-successful-punching related nonsense such as "ring generalship", "output" or "effective aggression" which don't make or break a single thing about who had the better punching success in a round. Only clean effective punching matters in this particular sport of hit and not get hit, who's going forward and punching more is merely a style or unrelated statistical thing which doesn't change the fact of who did the better successful punching work. And if they are unrelated to that, you only make your own life harder by splitting your attention to things that don't matter. Don't do that. Clean effective punching is the only rule when scoring a fight and all of the sudden you find yourself scoring most rounds confidently, because your focus was 100% on the right thing.

 

Over the last week there have been countless threads from ballsucking bumsteaks who are trying to rewrite history. It make me sick to the stomach. :verysad:-dead:dead

Get this into your ****ing thick craniums you Glass Jawed tranny queens. Marquez won.:deal

 

People are in denial because if Marquez won they'd have to change their p4p list where they've currently got Pacquiao in at 1, Dawson 2 and Bute@3 atsch

 

both fighters missed alot since both are cautious and fought technically, the most technical figth of all the 3 fights. the first time i watched it in the cinema, i can hardly see a clear view of those hits and misses. i got a clear enough copy of the fight and scored those punches and was surprised to see punches that i previously thought that missed have connected and vice-versa.

imo, jmm did not dominate the fight as some of you guys are seeing a whitewash or a schooling. pacquiao fought really well and actually landed his right hand more frequently this time. also he was never out of control and actually dictated the pace. jmm was passive especially in the latter part of the fight where i actually scored for pac 10-12, without hesitation as you mentioned, but acknowledging that it was still a close round.