Myke Tyson vs Tommy "Hitman" Hearns catchweight 200 .. who wins?

I hesitate to say whether a certain individual is gone for good, or merely taking refuge in another alt....it happens so often. Frankly, there are a few new posters here who have some of markant's mannerisms,...but I just don't know....nowadays you can never be too sure of who you're talking to with all these alts.

 

markant is his own show. You would know if it was him using another name after 2 posts .. Kinda like when mcvey went Tonto69 and whatnot on us for awhile, lol … just a matter of time before he started layin into Mendoza and my all time favorite nickname he has for someone else here … Rasta Ghouly …… CLASSIC !!

 

This is how you do sarcasm.

 

Yeah that’s what u meant, also I meant to say STEDS meaning steroids because Tyson was clearly roided up, let’s be real because in Tyson’s prime, steroids and peds had only just started being used in sports so they were going under the radar, Tyson in his prime was 218 lbs so take him off the steroids would take off around 25 lbs which leaves him at 193, then drain the 15 lbs of water weight for the weigh in (which fighters do all the time) leaves him at 178 lbs, then he’d rehydrate to the 193 lbs again for the fight

 

Tyson could never make 200 lbs though.

 

Tyson could clearly have made 200 just through dehydration. The rule of thumb is 10% of body weight.

But it is totally unfair & absent any evidence to indict tyson for using PEDs just because it was starting to become more popular then.
Anyone could have used. That does not show any rational, positive evidence.
In fact we have the evidence that while never tall, even at 13 when poor, not boxing, no access to or reason to use steroids Tyson was the better part of 200 lbs.

I have lifted for years.
Some dudes can get as big or bigger than Tyson naturally.
Mainly with lots of testosterone & a huge bone structure.
Others use & never get very big.
Also you cannot just take off a random amount of weight & assume what someone would be naturally...
Though I would say Evander-where there is mucho evidence of usage & had to work hard to gain weight-likely added ~ 10-15 lbs. of upper body mass after he first fought Bowe. A lot when his body fat stayed low & he never had much legs.

But no, just having muscle does not show someone is dirty.
Unless they grow so much, or it so fast, that the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.
Primo Carnero ar under 6' 6" used to weigh in-lean-at 260, 270...And his career began before steroids were INVENTED.
You cannot assume guilt from era or proximity.

 

I wasn’t having a go when I said Tyson was on peds or steroids, I was just saying that he probably was plus he did have a few no contests due to failed drug tests and when he was 13, I heard somewhere he was 5’8 and 200 lbs of fat, from what I heard he was fat when he was 13

 

Which were his no contests?
You also need to distinguigh recreational drugs from PEDs, which he never tested + for.
Tyson sure was not gonna be "cut" at 5' 8" 200 lbs. & 13 years old.
But he was not fat-chubby with a ton of muscle for a kid is more like it.

You formed an opinion "probably"...Based on incorrect + very general, non-suggestive information.
None of this shows he likely used steroids/PEDs.

 

Surely if Tyson gets down to 200 lbs he loses, he'd be malnourished and fatigued after 15 seconds. Tyson's rib cage weights about 200 lbs alone.

 

This was Tyson at 15, he probably was a solid 200 pounds then.

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Tyson was about a solid 200 pounds at 15, 16 or so. It's not far fetched that between 20-30 years old, training as a top level boxer and athlete that he could naturally be 218 pounds.

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One of my uncle's was and is a similar size and height to Tyson, more shoulders less legs and a different sport. If you put him on slim fast for 3 years the lowest he can get is 218 lbs , it is very realistic that Tyson was a natural 218 as a full grown 5'11 in shoes adult.

 

LOL! Tyson was not that much over 200, & he would be able to be fine with day before weigh ins.
This is pretty basic: tons of fighters-just as lean or less body fat % than Tyson because they have to make a maximum weight-have de & rehydrated up to sometimes over 10% of their body weight. For some *decades* now Slaps.
Tyson could lose less than 10% off of ^any* of his prime weights & been under 200.
He would not be weakened.

And that is without losing any body fat at all-just temporary water weight.
So he could have been likely the greatest CW ever-like Ali or Liston or...
But even if the opportunity had presented itself then, there is so much more money & Glory in being able to be the "Baddest Man on the Planet".