Myke tyson(who faced holyfield) vs ron lyle(the version who knocked down foreman)

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  1. Well, tons of tyson fans will say that tyson would destroy lyle blablabla but the facts are i think that ron lyle had a pretty good chance against this version of tyson post prison. Lyle had the strength,the reach,the size and the power to give some problems even to prime tyson. And lyle could take a great shot, he did show heart too. This version of mike 96-97 did not get great combinations like he did in 86-88, this tyson was more slow, his move of head was not so great at this time, and his stamina was poor.
    I think that it would be similar to the fight lyle vs foreman. (both men would be knocked down )but this time lyle would be the winner. By tko in 5 rounds.

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  2. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I honestly think there really is no question that Lyle would win, from as objective of a viewpoint as possible.

    think about it, that Ron Lyle showed up to Fight, or Die!

    The Mike who fought Holyfield in their first fight was already a mental mess, and he wasn't prepared (had he ever been?) for a fighter who wouldn't be intimidated by him, who also possessed the tools necessary to knock him down and out. Now consider the Ron Lyle who showed up to fight and/or die against George Foreman, who for what it's worth, hit Lyle with just as much, or more power in his one punch bombs, than Tyson would with his one punch bombs.

    add to that the fact that Lyle has a rangy frame, similar to that of a Buster Douglas, and this honestly sounds like a KO loss for '96 Mike in maybe one of the best heavyweight fights ever.
     
  3. yes i agree, but lyle was harder puncher than buster douglas
     
  4. choklab

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    Tyson of the holyfeild fight was still quick on the draw in the first few rounds. Holyfeild had a beter chin than lyle. I just dont see lyle timing mike so easily as he did gung ho foreman.

    hurting foreman so early gave lyle quite a break, nobody realy hurt tyson so early - even tucker. Would tyson be falling forward with his chin up like george? I think not.

    ron was brave and big but i just dont rate his chances at world level in general. By beating bruno Tyson proved he was still too good for lyle.
     
  5. Muchmoore

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    Say what you will about Tyson post prison but the fact is that he only lost to Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis prior to Danny Williams in 2004 and actually blasted out some capable fighters. He still had serious power and speed.

    Lyle's chin is too shaky for me. Tyson could always take a punch and took bombs off of guys who hit harder than Ron Lyle for sure. I go with Tyson by KO within 6.
     
  6. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Lyle wins hands down. Probably very early if he lands on Tyson he will go for the kill. Lyle hit very hard. definitely harder then Holyfield. Lyle was a gladiator. I could see this becoming a good fight, though. Lyle stops him early I think
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    Lyle definitely hitting harder than Holyfield is based on what, exactly?

    Lennox Lewis took 8 rounds to dispatch of an even worse Tyson, but Lyle is going to finish it early? Come on.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Immediately post prison Tyson was still on a level that Lyle never sniffed. He still had a great 4 or 5 rounds in him against most opponents and a very good few rounds after that. Lyle does not withstand the storm is my suspicion and the gap in handspeed is his undoing.

    If Lyle were to pull the upset, he would do well to copy Holyfield's tactics of mauling and clinching... and headbutting to use his great strength to negate Tyson's speed and frustrate the man. A very long shot, though.
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Holyfield couldn't put down foreman with a barrage of shots, Lyle put him down twice. Once with a barrage once with a single shot.

    Lyle was more aggressive then Lewis was and IMO his style is better for slaying Tyson
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lyle is just another Bruno/Golota type fight for Tyson, Lyle doesn't have the skill to hang in this company
     
  11. Muchmoore

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    No one ever beat Tyson by going at him and slugging.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm not sure Ron Lyle beats Frans Botha.
     
  13. tommygun711

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    wow. way to underrate Lyle. I garuntee Lyle smokes Botha.
    that's exactly what Holyfield did. and foreman and Liston Would smoke Tyson by slugging.
     
  14. Muchmoore

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    What Holyfield did was tie Tyson up, and wear him out until the end. In the process he shipped some shots that would have had Lyle on his back for the count.
     
  15. tommygun711

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    Okay, he still bullied him around and used his strength to beat Tyson. Lyle is capable of the same
    I doubt it. Holy would beat Lyle but not by KO. Lyle took shots from shavers in the first and 2nd round that tops anything holy could dish out.