Myke tyson(who faced holyfield) vs ron lyle(the version who knocked down foreman)

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  1. this test is an a complete and absolute lie, plain and simple, me AND NOBODY never saw the real tests, just a rumor on a forum, it is a lie.
    and i have a gift for you , my little friend ignorant.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3936571?dopt=Abstract

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6228040.stm

    the hitting power of frank bruno and ricky hatton...400kg(800pounds) both:rofl

    holyfield faced old foreman, tyson, lewis, bowe ,bert cooper and he was the sparring partner of david tua and he said that foreman was the hardest puncher. so you are saying that bruno was harder puncher than tyson,lewis and tua.:rofl

    I challenge you to show me only a proof to prove that it is real. (not 4 bums talking nonsense on a stupid forum).

    then ricky hatton was harder puncher than foreman, tyson, and ruddock lmao
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For once, we agree :good

    im surprised you didnt mention Sir Bert Cooper
     
  3. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    people have to realize that tyson looked bad BECAUSE he was fighting HOLYFIELD. Replace holyfield with a lesser man and it could have easily been a 1st round KO by the bombs that Tyson was throwing. lyle is not holyfield. not stylistically or in terms of caliber.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. lyle by ko in 5 rounds. too good pack for this version of tyson.( very strong,very powerful, very durable, too much heart,long reach,good chin,heart of gladiator, and he fought for the victory, not only for money). the great factor is. lyle was stronger mentally and he was an exconvict, he could not be intimidated. tyson would have not his habitual advantage of intimidation, lyle was not scared even by foreman. this version of tyson was finished mentally,he had bad stamina, he got worse combinations at this time, he was more slow, he did not have the great defence that he had in 86-88, he fought for money, he had no heart. he destroyed bums like mcneley or bruno, he never did beat a warrior at this time, lyle was a warrior.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, Ali would have been better had he done time in the joint? And aren't you forgetting Tyson was an excon also, for whatever that matters in your ridiculous logic?
     
  7. :tired god.. what a ****ing boring clown,go to say your **** opinion to your ******ed dad and forget me clown. i don´t care for your **** opinion.
     
  8. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    The clown is the guy that says that Ali was very weak and that Foreman was ten times stronger than Marciano, that would be you of course...

    Tyson would beat any version of Lyle, different level of fighter.

    He also never stopped top opponents and Mike had a granite chin, don't see how Lyle wins this.
     
  9. of course ali was weak physically compared with george foreman,ali was a stylist and foreman was a powerful puncher who had bigger and stronger structure of bones and stronger musculature, of course foreman was much stronger than marciano who weighed 178-187 pounds.(i never said 10 times, it is other of your stupid lies of kid, possibly for the numerous times that i humiliated you). and you know nothing about boxing, you did show it several times. bye sweetheart:hi:
     
  10. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    Ali controlled the clinches, tied George up and there was jack Foreman could do about it.

    Weight isn't the issue.

    There is clearly not a gulf in strength.

    Marciano was renowned for his strength, i have never see anything to suggest he was much stronger than Rocky, although George was obviously very strong.
     
  11. i remember a interview with joe frazier
    joe anyone did think that you was finished post the foreman fight, but you fought a war in 1975 against ali in manilla.
    well, they were 2 different men, foreman was a much stronger man who did hit like a hammer and ali did talk so much but he was not too much in the ring.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqoFh-rFlo0[/ame]
    check the last part against ali, frazier did handle ali easy, frazier was a much stronger man physically.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqreTRfpUPY[/ame]
    check how foreman did handle frazier and norton...


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnT5KBxgQao&feature=related[/ame]
    ali could not with norton or frazier physically ,they both were stronger than ali but you are saying that foreman was not much stronger than ali. and george was much stronger than frazier and norton.

    ali never did handle foreman by his strength, foreman was tired, ali had very fast hands, it is all. you do know what you are talking... and foreman was much heavier and bigger than marciano, plus he was a very strong man by genetics, obviously he was much stronger than marciano who was not even a hw. the heaviest marciano weighed 189 pounds, the heaviest young foreman weighed 232 pounds, not only the weight, a big strong man is always stronger than a small strong man. and it is evident... foreman had a stronger body... the arms of marciano were a joke compared with the arms of george. check foreman and marciano hitting the heavy bag...and check they both training his strength no contest.maybe you will tell me that marciano(178-187 pounds) might work his legs with a young cow of 500 pounds on his back(easily), (a young foreman did it).
    joseph louis barrow and jack dempsey in 1974 said that foreman was by far the strongest fighter and the most powerful fighter that they saw ever.. adn they saw liston,carnera,marciano,baer,shavers...
    obviously you don´t care about george and you talk any **** about him. you are a ****ing clown.
     
  12. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Big George would call you a ****** for all the bum love you give him combatesdeboxeo. Think about that while you constantly drool over your keyboard while typing homoerotic sentences about his powerful arms.
     
  13. great comment, it show your great intelligence.
     
  14. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    No, you are wrong. If you had any knowledge of grappling in general you would not make such ignorant posts.

    Punching a heavybag has zero to do with physical strength. You constantly substitute punching power for strength, two entirely different things.

    Ali was dictating the clinches pretty much from the offset, not merely after George was finished. George was very strong just not to the degree you make out. Calling Ali very weak in comparison highlights just how ridiculous you are, he held his own. Show me where in the Norton fight where he is throwing Ken around? oh that's right he doesn't, he hurt him with punches.

    One picture of George picking up a baby calf somehow means that he used to run marathons with it.:rofl

    I am getting tired of talking to you now. You have a weird fixation.
     
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    :patschi said , that foreman was much stronger and he was harder puncher, i never said that the hitting power is = strength . really, sometimes i ask to myself if you are serious, because you say tons of crap. you need learn about boxing. when you said " ali did handle foreman in the clinch by his physical strength" you did show the ignorant(or the liar) that you are, plain and simple. ali was very very fast with his hands , Foreman did not have a fixed point to apply his force, ali was moving constantly in thre early rounds and foreman was tired later. Foreman did a different work, he did not use the power as he did against norton or frazier. he was looking for the moment to hit cleanly to ali.ali was too fast,too smart, foreman could not even think as he should fight. ali was different to any fighter that he faced before. foreman used his brutal strength against predictable fighters o pressure fighters. the fight against ali was different, he was trying to avoid the fast hands from ali in the early rounds, and later he was tired. if you are saying that george foreman was not a much stronger guy than muhammad ali(who had a weak structure,he was a stylist), you know pure crap about boxing, it is a fact.