Mysterious Billy Pickles sparring footage -- found!

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    There was a rumor for decades that some footage survived of the early 20th century defensive master Mysterious Billy Pickles sparring with Harry Greb.

    Most historians dismissed this as a myth, since (1) Greb never existed, and (2) Pickles was too elusive to be captured on film.

    Fortunately, @reznick recently cleaned up some footage of Greb. @janitor and @choklab (who first brought Pickles to my attention) assure me that Greb's opponent bears all the hallmarks of Billy Pickles, including his ability to evade detection on film.

    I'll leave it to the experts to analyze this, but notice how awkwardly Greb looks when he tries to keep up with Pickles.

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    Just don't be too harsh with the critiques. Remember that this was filmed before Ali invented the human fist, which is why Greb is wearing fake mittens.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Stop already with the Greb shadow boxing....it's getting as old as a Henny Young man joke about his wife.
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    This may look like a cynical attempt to inject new life into the Greb shadowboxing joke. But I can assure you that it's actually a cynical attempt to write Choklab's character into the McMustache Mythos.
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Billy Pickles adapted well to the post Corbett style of boxing well, displaying punches, footwork and feet
     
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  5. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Is Billy Pickles a pseudonym for Sandy Saddler?
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    You're thinking of Michigan Billy Pickles.
     
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  7. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Amazing camera work!
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Umm that’s Harry Greb

    Billy Pickles was Philippino
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    No, no, the guy fighting Greb.
     
  10. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is Filipino....and I am pretty sure I read that he was actually Tagalog??
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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  13. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Do not sell Philip Pino short. Barney Gilpin was a future champ if not for his blood feud with Young Harry Mcarthy.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Mysterious Billy Pickles wasn’t just the finest fighter that ever lived, he is considered the father of the arm pull turn, the double corkscrew and the Adams Apple Chop.

    And it wasn’t just boxing moves that Pickles fathered. In just one year mysterious Billy sired 72 sons in 72 different towns, and the sisters of those boys all grew to be taller than Jes Willard.
     
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  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Pickles is turning him so effortlessly there, it's a wonder Greb wasn't totally dumbfounded. If it was any other fighter they'd have quit on their stool, after a damn good picklin'.
     
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