Myth buster : Foreman didn't lift Frazier up with an uppercutt

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  1. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What round did this happen in?
     
  2. Sugar Nick

    Sugar Nick He's A Good Boy Full Member

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    Yeah well Lewis had the uppercut of a circus clown so...
     
  3. Theron

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  4. Theron

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    So your saying that the shot Louis hit Galento with that clearly lifted him up didn't...
    There's the video if you want:huh
     
  5. Theron

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    All his weight was on his one foot and he got punched and got lifted up...
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Yes he did. That uppercut that caused a delayed reaction and caused Frazier to jump.

    Arguello lifted Kobayashi off his feet with body shots.
     
  7. MadcapMaxie

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    No, Joe Louis did not lift a 230lbs+ ball off his feet. The initial right dazed Galento and made him off balance and the force of the next shot knocked him off balance completely. That's why as soon as Galento hit the deck he got straight back up, not because he'd been hit so hard he was knocked to the canvas but because he was knocked down while off balance. Also he had an amazing chin.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    I don't see the difference. If foreman doesn't throw the uppercut, Frazier's feet stay on the ground.
     
  9. dyna

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    A guy for example uppercutting you so hard that it could lift you up 1 foot could probably kill you.

    That's like putting a rope on your neck and falling a 1 foot distance with the rope stopping the fall.
    That breaks your spine. (Normally a bigger drop is used to ensure death)
    (The drops breaks the spinal column at the neck)

    Thinking a man can lift a 230-240 pound man by hitting him on the chin is pure stupidity. (And I mean without delayed reaction/the brain and legs causing the jump)
     
  10. dyna

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    The problem is people think the force from the punch directly causes the lift.

    And not hard punch>brain goes woozy>legs go spaghetti>time to jump

    Difference between direct-indirect
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Frazier didn't weigh 220........
     
  12. dyna

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    Theron does.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    It lifted Frazier off his feet. The punch did it.

    Watch Arguello-Kobayashi it ain't long.
     
  14. Absolutely!

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    The difference is in what people are trying to convey with the sentence. In this case it's awe at Foreman's power that he was able to physically lift a grown man off his feet with a single punch, when in truth it was Frazier's discombobulation from the punch that caused him to jump a split second after the punch was thrown. Looked at like that it's no more impressive than a man knocking another man flat on his back, and considerably less impressive than a man knocking another man unconscious.

    Saying the punch lifted Frazier off his feet is deceptive. It's like saying that Tyson bit Evander's ear so hard that it made him spin around. Factual only to a certain degree.
     
  15. Absolutely!

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    I'd hazard a guess that many believe exactly that, orriray, else why is it so often mentioned in connection with Foreman's power?